Your Expectations for Gordon and Team

So, let's say he comes back and plays his first game Dec. 28th against Toronto. The Hornets are 7-21 at this point and Jason Smith's rehab went well so we are at full strength.

What are your expectations for Gordon for the remainder of the year and for the Hornets record-wise over the final 54 games?

All joking aside. I think we finish over .500 over those 54 games. Let's say...31-23 or so.

Final record of 28-54 ish. If we make a move and bring in Luol Deng without giving up Gordon, tack on an extra 5-8 wins. And an additional 3 wins if we move Vasquez to the bench and get a real starting PG.

What he said. Cept maybe 34-20. Schedule won't be as brutal as now.

That would make a final of .500. Not bad and good to attract some max FA going into next season.

I think we still have a losing record over that span, though it would be closer to .500 than what we've had. I don't think even a healthy Gordon really makes this team a winner. Not with gaping holes at small forward and point guard. Vasquez has had nice stats the past few games and I really think he's pumping up his value on the market. My final record prediction is 23-59.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

What he said. Cept maybe 34-20. Schedule won't be as brutal as now.

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Take a look at that January schedule when you get a chance. Pretty nasty.

Eases up a bit in March

I'm afraid that Gordon makes us a team that starts to win enough that we are out of the top-10 come lottery night, yet we miss the playoffs. That is the worst possible scenario.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Take a look at that January schedule when you get a chance. Pretty nasty.

Eases up a bit in March

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In an NBA sched it's not so much the teams but the road trips and B2Bs. I see 3 B2Bs, two of which are road only, and longest road trip for the month is 3 games, one of which is east. With a healthy roster I see a .500 month, then they can start to take off the remainder of the year...if certain players don't get "sore". Davis and Rivers will only get better.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I'm afraid that Gordon makes us a team that starts to win enough that we are out of the top-10 come lottery night, yet we miss the playoffs. That is the worst possible scenario.

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No it's not. It's time to bring in FAs. Even if you lose that is no guarantee of a top 3 draft spot. They aren't rebranding, building a new training facility, and clear loads of cap space to bring in more 19 year olds to depend on right now.

You can also get good players later in the 1st. Remember David West? Darren Collison? PJIII dropping?

I hate to be negative, but I think we go 21-33. We are a young developing team, Gordon is going to take awhile to get into his game and January is a tough tough schedule. I think we finish the season strong, but 20 to 24 is what I see

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

All joking aside. I think we finish over .500 over those 54 games. Let's say...31-23 or so.

Final record of 28-54 ish. If we make a move and bring in Luol Deng without giving up Gordon, tack on an extra 5-8 wins. And an additional 3 wins if we move Vasquez to the bench and get a real starting PG.

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If we went 31 and 23, final record would be 38-44. I think its just too much for a young team, we are going to have a lot of hot and cold nights as players develop.

Kinda halfassing my math there, clearly. Meh.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Kinda halfassing my math there, clearly. Meh.

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All good, I did the same thing as the edit probably shows

Before the season I was pretty optimistic, but I do question how much Gordon can help the terrible play at SF. He'll certainly help, but the hole at SF is much bigger than anticipated.

I just want to see what a lineup of Rivers, Gordon, Aminu/Miller, Anderson, and Davis can do.

Well, we're not only going to be seeing Gordon for about 34-36 minutes a night, but we'll be seeing the decrease in minutes given to Roberts, Rivers, and probably no minutes for Mason. Besides Vasquez, these 3 guys are our worst defenders and putting in Gordon will help our defense substantially. Then on the offensive end we'll finally have someone who can drive into the line on a consistent basis and generate quality shots. Gordon really is just what the doctor ordered for this team.

I said before the season we'd go 37-45 but that was assuming Gordon missed about 15 games, Davis wouldn't be worth much offensively, and Lopez wouldn't be worth much on either side of the ball. So because of that, considering the tough schedule in January and Gordon will probably miss another 5 games for something if I had to guess, I'll go 26-28 with a final record of 33-49.

The thought of the team being at full strength is just too exciting. The team will win a couple of games and will be more fun to watch. Gordon has a point to prove and I really think that him being on the court will make Ryno, Rivers and A.D better. #Fingerscrossed

I still think we fail to break .500. I'm gonna say 25-29

My expectations are largely unrealistic so I'll keep them to myself. :)

I think we will go .500 in the remaining games.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I'm afraid that Gordon makes us a team that starts to win enough that we are out of the top-10 come lottery night, yet we miss the playoffs. That is the worst possible scenario.

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this is the risk we are running and I guess we will just have to see what transpires....

I dont care about the record, I just want to see how the team meshes together

Eric Gordon's going to win our hearts back

I am standing firm on my prediction that we are a mid lottery team. If he gets injured again than we will be bottom 3 again. We are too young, and not good enough to be more than a mid lotto team, unless we make a move to add another star next to Anderson.

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Originally Posted by CP3nDX30

Eric Gordon's going to win our hearts back

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By us trading him to the Cats for Henderson and a First?

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Originally Posted by CP3nDX30

Eric Gordon's going to win our hearts back

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Too easy.

Gordon for Mayo please please please please please

50+ games of this...



I can only hope he stays healthy the entire time.



Oh and you might wanna mute the vid and watch it with this instead.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

50+ games of this...



I can only hope he stays healthy the entire time.



Oh and you might wanna mute the vid and watch it with this instead.

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And that's in what, 8 games? Woah. He wins me over if he plays 40 games this season. I love him if he plays the rest of the season.

Big ups for the Demetri Martin quote.

"There's a big difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool. Location, location, location."

I would love that Gordon

that video makes it seem like he played more than 8 games... such an exciting player to watch when healthy.

i expect him to bring the ball up the majority of the time when hes back

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

50+ games of this...



I can only hope he stays healthy the entire time.



Oh and you might wanna mute the vid and watch it with this instead.

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But somehow people laugh at him being traded for Paul George saying, "no way they trade for him his trade value is useless." If he comes back healthy to do this for 10 games, the Pacers and Nelson won't hesitate to make that trade. They will bring him home to Indiana with Hill, Gordon, Granger, West, and Hibbert that is one exciting team competing for a championship immediately and for a while. With a young star, who is a local star already signed for the future. This is a huge plus and minimal gamble to the Pacers, new GM needs to make a splash to make it his team. Huge plus and no gamble by the Hornets, gives Monty a wing to develop into a star who fans will love. Alternative is always keep Gordon around until end of season to maximize value. Just maybe he finishes out contract and remainder of career with a few championships. Time will tell.

What you miss in aall of that is he played in 9 games. I repeat, he played in 9 of a total 66 games, and has not played at all this year. You see what it's doing to this team and GMs are paying attention. It will take a lot more than a 10 game spot duty cameo appearance.

He has to prove the injuries are over. Teams like Indiana can't afford to dump huge contracts on unreliable DNPs. You can trade Eric Gordon but you can't trade Puddin.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I'm afraid that Gordon makes us a team that starts to win enough that we are out of the top-10 come lottery night, yet we miss the playoffs. That is the worst possible scenario.

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I pray that doesn't happen....I either want significant improvement or a top 5 pick for next season. But I was thinking the same with gordon's return...but hopefully rivers and davis will continue to improve in that span if we are out of the top 10 at the end of the season.

That's why we need to trade that pick as soon as possible

Fully healthy this team will still be under .500 IMO. Until Rivers settles into a role and Monty figures out what hes doing at SF and PF and we get stability in the rotation and more efficient. Just pray EG stays healthy the rest of the year and we develop the rooks. next year with another lotto pick and possible key signing, that is gonna be the .500+ team IMO.

Rivers/Vasquez
Gordon/Roberts
Thomas/ Aminu/ Miller
Davis/Anderson
Lopez/Davis

is the lineup i want to see the most. Vasquez and Anderson running the 2nd unit would be DEADLY and in crunch time Anderson will be out there 4th Q for Lopez or Davis depending on the size of the opposing Center (at least until Davis gets bigger). And Roberts can fill it up too at the off guard I believe this lineup would allow for the best substitution rotations as far as having the best players out there to fill certain roles in a given lineup.

Gordon scoring for the starting unit and Ryno holding down scoring off the pine to avoid or minimize scoring droughts its imperative to have either one of those guys on the court at all times though if wining is the objective that is

first two off the bench in this scenario would be Anderson and Vasquez for Lopez and Rivers/Gordon/Thomas depending on match-up I believe we can run some 3 guard lineups now and run w/ Gordon back. Imagine running with Rivers, Gordon, Vasquez, Anderson, Davis as a lineup Ryno would just run to the 3 pt line and Vasquez would direct traffic on or off ball while Gordon/Rivers do their thing off the dribble breaking down the defender getting to the rim

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Originally Posted by Da_Beez_Neez

Rivers/Vasquez
Gordon/Roberts
Thomas/ Aminu/ Miller
Davis/Anderson
Lopez/Davis

is the lineup i want to see the most. Vasquez and Anderson running the 2nd unit would be DEADLY and in crunch time Anderson will be out there 4th Q for Lopez or Davis depending on the size of the opposing Center (at least until Davis gets bigger). And Roberts can fill it up too at the off guard I believe this lineup would allow for the best substitution rotations as far as having the best players out there to fill certain roles in a given lineup.

Gordon scoring for the starting unit and Ryno holding down scoring off the pine to avoid or minimize scoring droughts its imperative to have either one of those guys on the court at all times though if wining is the objective that is

first two off the bench in this scenario would be Anderson and Vasquez for Lopez and Rivers/Gordon/Thomas depending on match-up I believe we can run some 3 guard lineups now and run w/ Gordon back. Imagine running with Rivers, Gordon, Vasquez, Anderson, Davis as a lineup Ryno would just run to the 3 pt line and Vasquez would direct traffic on or off ball while Gordon/Rivers do their thing off the dribble breaking down the defender getting to the rim

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Yes please. Vasquez has been playing some SF of late, and it's been decent.

My argument against those who thing that this team will all of a sudden by a .500+ team is that one player should not a team make.If you are chalk full of good players, missing a player- even a star or two, should be no excuse for going 5-18.

The Timberwolves stayed at .500 without both Love and Rubio and the Bulls have played .600 basketball over the last few years without Rose. The fact is that the Hornets play 3-4 guys that should not get any playing time in the NBA and that will still be the case when Gordon comes back as Mason, Henry, and Aminu will all get minutes at the backup 2 and at the 3. Vasquez will still be forced to play 32-34 minutes when he should be getting 14-18 on a good team.

One guys does not fix it all. There are still plenty of holes- a 7 footer who cant rebound, a rookie who gets pushed around in the paint, another rook who will be trying to find his role. People will say the Hornets were 6-3 last year with Gordon, but that was with a team full of vets. If he plays 54 this year, mark me down for 24-30

I think facing probably the hardest schedule in the league and most of it without said rookie that gets pushed around, as if being overpowered is all he's capable of doing, had more to do with us going 5-18 than anything.

Championship.





Championship.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

50+ games of this...



I can only hope he stays healthy the entire time.

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This highlight video must have been every point he scored last year.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

My argument against those who thing that this team will all of a sudden by a .500+ team is that one player should not a team make.If you are chalk full of good players, missing a player- even a star or two, should be no excuse for going 5-18.

The Timberwolves stayed at .500 without both Love and Rubio and the Bulls have played .600 basketball over the last few years without Rose. The fact is that the Hornets play 3-4 guys that should not get any playing time in the NBA and that will still be the case when Gordon comes back as Mason, Henry, and Aminu will all get minutes at the backup 2 and at the 3. Vasquez will still be forced to play 32-34 minutes when he should be getting 14-18 on a good team.

One guys does not fix it all. There are still plenty of holes- a 7 footer who cant rebound, a rookie who gets pushed around in the paint, another rook who will be trying to find his role. People will say the Hornets were 6-3 last year with Gordon, but that was with a team full of vets. If he plays 54 this year, mark me down for 24-30

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it is a small sample size but our winning percentage is 67% when Gordon plays. One player of his caliber can make that much of a difference because of what he does on both ends of the ball. And let's not forget we were without Davis for 11 games.

Also, it understates how critical a difference one player can make. I mean, imagine LeBron or Chris Paul on this team instead of Aminu or Vasquez.


Though apparently Vasquez is a future All-Star.

*snicker*