Why is Tony Allen not being factored into our defense woes?

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10-04-2017, 02:17 PM
Silverfoxx

Why is Tony Allen not being factored into our defense woes?

Dude is still on our team right? Folks are saying we are missing Hill perimeter Defense and help defense as well as communication for defenders. Tony Allen solves all of this. Is he still a Pelican?
10-04-2017, 02:31 PM
Mythrol

Because we still need to play good defense when he is off the court.
10-04-2017, 02:34 PM
Silverfoxx

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Because we still need to play good defense when he is off the court.

Did he play yesterday?
10-04-2017, 02:36 PM
Jabberwalker

I think it is a combination of positions where Hill is a 3 or a 4 and Allen is a 2 or a 3, Allen's lack of offense so while he helps on defense his overall ability isn't as good, Allen is 35 and losing athleticism, and that we were expecting Hill to play 30+ minutes a game whereas right now we have no idea where Allen is in the rotation. I'll echo my own comments from earlier today in that I think our best chance of success is slow, grinding basketball and us playing big each night. Allen at the 3 may not be us going big but if you put AD, Boogie, Holiday, Allen, and Rondo for ~30 minutes a night and try to muck the game up you can probably sustain staying within 6 points of any non contending team and make the game a coinflip at the end of the fourth which would likely lead us into the playoffs.
10-04-2017, 02:37 PM
Jabberwalker

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Did he play yesterday?

No.
10-04-2017, 02:51 PM
msusousaphone

Has anyone mentioned that it was just one preseason game?

I'm not even trying to be snarky.....but man....yeah.....one preseason game. Like. Boogie didn't even look pressured when he came out to start the 2nd. They're taking it easy. So should we.
10-04-2017, 02:52 PM
luckyman

What defensive woes?
10-04-2017, 04:29 PM
Silverfoxx

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

Has anyone mentioned that it was just one preseason game?

I'm not even trying to be snarky.....but man....yeah.....one preseason game. Like. Boogie didn't even look pressured when he came out to start the 2nd. They're taking it easy. So should we.

But but...it was the Bulls doe.... AD and Cousins and Jrue played 30 min each doe.
10-04-2017, 04:48 PM
Mythrol

Are people not allowed to critique pre season games? If not then there's nothing to do until the season starts.
10-04-2017, 05:07 PM
Spaniard

I just assumed it was a DNP- old
10-04-2017, 05:08 PM
PelsFan2313

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Are people not allowed to critique pre season games? If not then there's nothing to do until the season starts.

Only compliments are allowed. Otherwise it's just preseason.
10-04-2017, 05:23 PM
R Pelly

You know, the Golden State Warriors shot 4-33 from 3 point land in their loss to the Nuggets the other night. Warriors must now have 3 point shooting woes.
10-04-2017, 05:44 PM
msusousaphone

Woes. Defensive woes. That's not critique. That's like abysmal level. And it's like it's a habitual thing. It was one game. We did awesome the 1st half and the starters were clearly less aggressive second half. Not knocking the foxx, the game thread GoT downright sad. Lol.

Side note.....I was so into GoT that my phone auto-corrects got to GoT.
10-04-2017, 05:47 PM
luckyman

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Originally Posted by R Pelly

You know, the Golden State Warriors shot 4-33 from 3 point land in their loss to the Nuggets the other night. Warriors must now have 3 point shooting woes.

I elect you for president. This man gets it.
10-04-2017, 06:11 PM
Silverfoxx

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

Woes. Defensive woes. That's not critique. That's like abysmal level. And it's like it's a habitual thing. It was one game. We did awesome the 1st half and the starters were clearly less aggressive second half. Not knocking the foxx, the game thread GoT downright sad. Lol.

Side note.....I was so into GoT that my phone auto-corrects got to GoT.

No knock taken , btw I'm just starting GoT. Better late then never right?
10-04-2017, 06:44 PM
PelsFan2313

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

Woes. Defensive woes. That's not critique. That's like abysmal level. And it's like it's a habitual thing. It was one game. We did awesome the 1st half and the starters were clearly less aggressive second half. Not knocking the foxx, the game thread GoT downright sad. Lol.

Side note.....I was so into GoT that my phone auto-corrects got to GoT.

Lmao. I hated the writing and direction last season, but great show overall.
10-04-2017, 07:07 PM
N.O.Bronco

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Lmao. I hated the writing and direction last season, but great show overall.

I agree. Without having the safety net of Marin’s story giving them dialogue, story, and scene ideas, the show really has taken a major step backwards.
10-04-2017, 07:21 PM
SmontySwilliams

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I just assumed it was a DNP- old

This
10-04-2017, 09:06 PM
PelsFan2313

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

I agree. Without having the safety net of Marin’s story giving them dialogue, story, and scene ideas, the show really has taken a major step backwards.

Yeah. I'm not expecting a fantastic final season given how rushed and unimaginative the past season was. I'd rather wait an extra year if it meant a better quality production.
10-05-2017, 08:56 AM
UNO Gracias

I am reading this thread and wondering, "Did I miss him at the game?" Yeah, he didn't even play, so how can poor defense in a glorified scrimmage be attributed to a man not even in the game? What next, are we going to say that Frank Jackson play is keeping us from having a top notch rotation?

I am not expecting much from TA, but maybe Stacey Augmon (New Orleans Hornets SA) impact from him. The Plastic Man gave us limited mins, but they were impact limited mins.