Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by Jabberwalker

How do we all feel about Nerlens being a free agent? I always really liked his game. The fact that no one has offered him anything is crazy to me. In the last two Mosgov, Mahinmi, Asik, Leornard, Biyombo, Noah, Miles Plumlee, and Tyson Chandler all averaged 14 Million a year last year after signing contracts since the cap's gone up. That is a third of the league carrying dead weight contracts in centers that are legitimately hampering their team's success yet Nerlens isn't getting his qualifying offer of 4.5? The guy is a genuinely good pick and roll defender. He just can't shoot. As much as shooting has become important for big men, I'd gladly take that deficiency for his defense. I know we don't really need another big but it is so perplexing to me.

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He's restricted.
Though it is ridiculous that it's taking Dallas so long to sign him.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

He's restricted.
Though it is ridiculous that it's taking Dallas so long to sign him.

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They made him an offer, but he reportedly is looking for a near-max deal.

Withey to the Mavs!

I think Morrow is still out there saying "sign me! sign me!"

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

I think Morrow is still out there saying "sign me! sign me!"

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Bring him aboard!!!

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

They made him an offer, but he reportedly is looking for a near-max deal.

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I can't see how he expects to get near max when yes he's shown a little but not much. It's crazy.

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Quin Cook has signed with the Hawks on a 2 year partially guaranteed deal.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Quin Cook has signed with the Hawks on a 2 year partially guaranteed deal.

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Good for Quinn. Hope he kills it

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Quin Cook has signed with the Hawks on a 2 year partially guaranteed deal.

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:/

Oh goody. Now if he has an above average game, we'll get threads like "Oh, look how bad we are for not taking him!"

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Oh goody. Now if he has an above average game, we'll get threads like "Oh, look how bad we are for not taking him!"

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Well, if he is good, we can actually look bad for letting him go.

Letting go Cook and Toupane allowed us to sign Clark. Clark is a player with championship experience.
At that time it was the easiest way to clear some space. And upgrade.


August 31st is approaching. Before then (stretching deadline) you will hear one or two Pelicans moves.
Maybe some camp invites.

I agree with MM that Ajinca may be bought out.

Ajinca can get minimum somewhere. or around 1 million in Europe.
he is owed 10.2 million $

He may agree for 7-8 millions to free himself.
Pels will stretch him for 1,5-1,7 millions.
and will clear room for two minimum guys. or Dante for little more than minimum.

problem with this thinking is that Pels won't leave themselves almost any flexibility for the season.
This is why Asik might be the best solution.

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Originally Posted by pawel

Letting go Cook and Toupane allowed us to sign Clark. Clark is a player with championship experience.
At that time it was the easiest way to clear some space. And upgrade.


August 31st is approaching. Before then (stretching deadline) you will hear one or two Pelicans moves.
Maybe some camp invites.

I agree with MM that Ajinca may be bought out.

Ajinca can get minimum somewhere. or around 1 million in Europe.
he is owed 10.2 million $

He may agree for 7-8 millions to free himself.
Pels will stretch him for 1,5-1,7 millions.
and will clear room for two minimum guys. or Dante for little more than minimum.

problem with this thinking is that Pels won't leave themselves almost any flexibility for the season.
This is why Asik might be the best solution.

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Every next day that Asik is still on the books it is a better situation for us to do something with him (once the season has started anyway). That's why AA goes before him

Problem with Asik is that it looks that
1. dumping him costs a ton (picks, other bad long-term contracts)
2. he probably don't want to agree for a discount buyout

IMO there is not a big difference between not stretching him now and having him with two years left and 15 millions dollars (stretching for 5 years costs us 3 millions per year, stretching him now is 3,5 millions per 7 years). I mean waiting a year won't give us a better chance to dump him cheaper...
Also Dell is fighting for his present.

there is financial difference, I agree
but assuming Asik will remain a Pelican - he won't play single minute this year. and to dump even his 15 millions you will have to use first round pick...

personally I would stretch Asik, remain with Ajinca for a year. remain flexible with our pick
sign Dante and a wing (type Dunleavy) for one season

remain out of tax - and use pick to upgrade around the deadline or around the draft

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Originally Posted by pawel

Problem with Asik is that it looks that
1. dumping him costs a ton (picks, other bad long-term contracts)
2. he probably don't want to agree for a discount buyout

IMO there is not a big difference between not stretching him now and having him with two years left and 15 millions dollars (stretching for 5 years costs us 3 millions per year, stretching him now is 3,5 millions per 7 years). I mean waiting a year won't give us a better chance to dump him cheaper...
Also Dell is fighting for his present.

there is financial difference, I agree
but assuming Asik will remain a Pelican - he won't play single minute this year. and to dump even his 15 millions you will have to use first round pick...

personally I would stretch Asik, remain with Ajinca for a year. remain flexible with our pick
sign Dante and a wing (type Dunleavy) for one season

remain out of tax - and use pick to upgrade around the deadline or around the draft

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I agree. Bite the bullet with Asik and move on. I cannot imagine we intend on playing him, so pay the money for Dell's mistake and stretch him.

Who is our backup center if we move Ajinca? Asik? Ahhahahahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahhahaahahah. Ahahahahahahah

Trading Ajinca just creates another hole we have to fill.

Our best hope is Asik stays "sick" and doesn't play this year so we can file for medical retirement and he can be removed from our books just like Bosh.

^ Man that's just wrong.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Who is our backup center if we move Ajinca? Asik? Ahhahahahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahhahaahahah. Ahahahahahahah

Trading Ajinca just creates another hole we have to fill.

Our best hope is Asik stays "sick" and doesn't play this year so we can file for medical retirement and he can be removed from our books just like Bosh.

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Our best backup center is Davis... Davis and Boogie will eat around 70 big's minutes...

And if You wanna have a center - sign minimum guy

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Originally Posted by pawel

Our best backup center is Davis... Davis and Boogie will eat around 70 big's minutes...

And if You wanna have a center - sign minimum guy

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Assuming they eat 70 minutes that still leaves 26 minutes for other bigs. That's a lot of minutes for just some guy off the street.

Assuming Diallo gets the PF minutes, that's still 12-14ish for a center and that's BEFORE any injury. If AD or Cousins misses even a small amount of time I wouldn't want to rely on just a random minimum guy we just picked up.

I want Jahlil Okafor as our backup. He's cheap and an upgrade over Ajinca. Ajinca, Q and a 2nd gets it done.

Ajinca.Q.and first maybe. So thank you...

As to center.
We are assuming that AD/DMC will play all center minutes. When healthy.
The rest PF minutes will go to Diallo. Hill and Dante (hopefully). Enough bodies for 28 minutes. Also Miller was supposed to play a little there.
If any of AD-DMC combo will be injured we can play small ball with more minutes for Diallo, Hill and Dante.
If AD and DMC wont play - you may target ICE Diaw, Lee or Zeller for minimum

Also MM mentioned fair trade proposal.
One year of Trevor Booker for Asik and first.

In that case we wont need Dante.
Booker might take backup PF minutes

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Originally Posted by pawel

Also MM mentioned fair trade proposal.
One year of Trevor Booker for Asik and first.

In that case we wont need Dante.
Booker might take backup PF minutes

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Don't like giving up our 1st yet just to dump Asik.

And at what point You will agree to give up first?
Booker is a vet. Also expiring vet.

I like it better than 7 years of 3.5 millions of dead salary.
3,5 millions this year were combined Clark and Miller deals...

Cole Aldrich and a 2nd for Asik and top 5 protected 1st.

Dell pretty much prefers to pay early 2nd rounders. We wont have the money for another 1st next season with the signing of Cousins.

Thibs is familiar with Asik.

Who says no?