Hornets Decline Option on Chief, X

Why would you decline the option on a player that is your starting SF? Very interesting...

I understand X, but AFA? Didnt we just name him the starter for Wed?

They must not believe in him.

They said that they could re-sign both players. Perhaps, it's for the cap space. Their options would have amounted to $6.9M combined.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss..._river_default

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Originally Posted by Saints Fan in A

They said that they could re-sign both players. Perhaps, it's for the cap space. Their options would have amounted to $6.9M combined.

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Gotcha, understand now, thanks.

I'm glad. Aminu isn't going ever be much better than he currently is. Time to move on.

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Originally Posted by Saints Fan in A

They said that they could re-sign both players. Perhaps, it's for the cap space. Their options would have amounted to $6.9M combined.

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Yeah I read that either. They did it with Smith, so maybe it could happen. But I guess it's good to keep options open in case we can get a high profile/high money guy next year.

Don't be surprised if either of those guys are included in a trade sometime this year.

This just means they become free agents after the season, right? So Aminu and X are still on the team?

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Originally Posted by NolaHornets23

This just means they become free agents after the season, right? So Aminu and X are still on the team?

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by NolaHornets23

This just means they become free agents after the season, right? So Aminu and X are still on the team?

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Yes

X was a no brainer. Surprised we would not pick up option on AFA though.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

I'm glad. Aminu isn't going ever be much better than he currently is. Time to move on.

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I know you just didn't say that.

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Originally Posted by Razorpens

I know you just didn't say that.

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I just did.

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Don't be surprised if either of those guys are included in a trade sometime this year.

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Why would anyone want to trade for them?

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

Why would anyone want to trade for them?

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Fillers.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

I'm glad. Aminu isn't going ever be much better than he currently is. Time to move on.

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He's still on the team so I don't know how this can be viewed as moving on. It sounds like this was done more for flexibility with the salary cap.

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

He's still on the team so I don't know how this can be viewed as moving on. It sounds like this was done more for flexibility with the salary cap.

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When you don't pick up a players option on a rookie contract, it's pretty clear to me that they are not part of your future plans.

If no one wants them, then we can get them for less or use the money elsewhere. Flexibility if you aren't worried about losing them.

Given that Dell said we'll make a piece next summer, and AFA would then not be on the team next summer, doesn't that say they will be looking for a SF?

As stated earlier, we didn't pick up Jason Smith's option and still re-signed him to a three year deal.

Perhaps, we have a plan in place. Demps is always working on something.

are they still restricted FAs?

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If no one wants them, then we can get them for less or use the money elsewhere. Flexibility if you aren't worried about losing them.

Given that Dell said we'll make a piece next summer, and AFA would then not be on the team next summer, doesn't that say they will be looking for a SF?

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That's what I'm expecting.

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Originally Posted by 42

If no one wants them, then we can get them for less or use the money elsewhere. Flexibility if you aren't worried about losing them.

Given that Dell said we'll make a piece next summer, and AFA would then not be on the team next summer, doesn't that say they will be looking for a SF?

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IGGY, COME ON DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN

Reid's take is very good.

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Originally Posted by CP3nDX30

are they still restricted FAs?

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To be restricted you have to be on one of those deals without options in the second round OR have all your options picked up.

So, no.

Damn I'd rather keep afa and get a good center


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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

When you don't pick up a players option on a rookie contract, it's pretty clear to me that they are not part of your future plans.

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After the Hornets obtained forward Jason Smith from the Philadelphia 76ers in a trade in 2010, they did not pick up his option but still re-signed him before the start of last season when he agreed to a three-year deal that pays $2.5 million per season.

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http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss..._river_default

I wonder what we think Aminu's value is?

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss..._river_default

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Jason Smith wasn't productive until he signed his extension. A lot of fans were puzzled by it. And they got him cheaper so that was nice. As for Aminu, he's an elite rebounder and solid defender. Most teams are already aware of his abilities and his potential. This isn't like Jason Smith's case at all.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

I wonder what we think Aminu's value is?

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Gone are the days of paying players like this well above market value because he"might" be good someday . I'm all for stuff like this.

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Jason Smith wasn't productive until he signed his extension. A lot of fans were puzzled by it. And they got him cheaper so that was nice. As for Aminu, he's an elite rebounder and solid defender. Most teams are already aware of his abilities and his potential. This isn't like Jason Smith's case at all.

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They are both about having more options with the salary cap.

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

They are both about having more options with the salary cap.

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But you're assuming Aminu can't get a deal somewhere else that's better? I know Jason Smith couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

But you're assuming Aminu can't get a deal somewhere else that's better? I know Jason Smith couldn't.

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I'm not assuming anything. The move gives the Hornets more options with the salary cap. They can let Aminu play this season and see if he develops enough to offer him another contract just like they did with J.Smith.

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

I'm not assuming anything. The move gives the Hornets more options with the salary cap. They can let Aminu play this season and see if he develops enough to offer him another contract just like they did with J.Smith.

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Jason Smith took LESS money on this current contract. And one of the reasons was because he was an unknown at the time and wasn't productive. They are not going to be able to pull that stunt with Aminu who is already known as an ahtletic rebound and defender. Guys who rebounds and defend without a bad attitude are always in demand.

If the team was going to resign him, there's a bigger chance it'll be more expensive than picking up his option. Aminu can get Jason Smith's type of contract anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Jason Smith took LESS money on this current contract. And one of the reasons was because he was an unknown at the time and wasn't productive. They are not going to be able to pull that stunt with Aminu who is already known as an ahtletic rebound and defender. Guys who rebounds and defend without a bad attitude are always in demand.

If the team was going to resign him, there's a bigger chance it'll be more expensive than picking up his option. Aminu can get Jason Smith's type of contract anywhere.

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Aminu isn't consistently productive and isn't worth what he would be paid next year right now. It made no sense to pick up his contract and pay him based off potential. Unless this link isn't correct J.Smith got the same amount of money per year on his new contract as he did in the last year of his rookie contract:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...smithja02.html

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

I wonder what we think Aminu's value is?

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Carl Landry settled for a 1 year $4 million deal. The money at the lower end of FA has dried up. If the Hornets end up keeping Aminu long term I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in the ball park of what Jason Smith got.

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Originally Posted by Metairie Hornet

Aminu isn't consistently productive and isn't worth what he would be paid next year right now. It made no sense to pick up his contract and pay him based off potential. Unless this link isn't correct J.Smith got the same amount of money per year on his new contract as he did in the last year of his rookie contract:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...smithja02.html

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Jason Smith was slated to make either $3.3 or $3.8ish million on his QO, I forget which.

Vasquez was signed as insurance, if we were to lose him next season, we would be ultra thin at a very important position... We had SF on list of positions that we wanted to make a big sign for next season so we might be on that route or we'll just see what AFA does this season and offer him a decent multi deal, I mean we do have Miller who could start or back up the big acquisition... as far as X goes... He's outta here!

I think smith is getting 2.5/year now, correct?

That link doesn't show you his option because we declined it. It only showed you his new contract. If you're risk losing him over a 1 million or less, it says a lot about him and the future with the team right? I'm still feeling that we're freeing up money to go after a FA next summer.

It's not hard to see that a guy like Aminu is a stopgap and isn't worth keeping longterm. With Miller destined to be a quality back up SF, the most logical move to make is to grab a starting caliber SF on the market.

Aminu is a defensive specialist at best. Nothing more. Based on his production so far in the league, he's not worth more than a minimum salary. Same as X. Smart move by Demps. If Aminu wants to stay, he can, but the team is looking at better long-term option especially one who will help offensively which Aminu cannot. Henry is in real trouble since he hasn't proven to do anything well in this league.

A lot of teams spent a lot of money this past offseason and the new luxury tax penalties are about to kick in. I think the spending on free agents takes a drastic decline starting this offseason and that may be a major reason why they didn't pick up the option on Aminu, with the assumption they could bring him back for cheaper if they wanted to keep him beyond this season.

When do we have to decide on Lopez's option for next year?

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Originally Posted by greewe

When do we have to decide on Lopez's option for next year?

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I'd imagine by the 31st too.
That would go for Warrick as well.

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When do we have to decide on Lopez's option for next year?

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After the season.

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Originally Posted by Hornets78

After the season.

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Correct- the Oct. 31st deadline is for rookie scale options

Hornets will have to decide on Warrick and Lopez by June 30th of next year

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Originally Posted by Hornets78

After the season.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Correct- the Oct. 31st deadline is for rookie scale options

Hornets will have to decide on Warrick and Lopez by June 30th of next year

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Thanks guy's!

Well this should be a fire under Aminu's butt. If he earns it...he will get a new deal. But it's apparent we will be signing a quality SF in offseason.