2018 NBA Draft: If there was ever a year to take...this would be it.

This upcoming draft has the potential to be the most star studded draft since the 2004 Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, David West draft. With Michael Porter, Marvin Bagley, Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, and Luka Doncic, some teams are going to be going home with All Star players. The draft is top heavy for sure, but then you will have marksmen like Grayson Allen who will go in the mid to late first round, if there was ever a time to tank, that time is now.

I am not calling on us to tank, and we have absolutely no reason to tank. If we have a down season then you can count on Boogie leaving, and none of these young guys will be able to replace him on day one. Also, if we have a losing record you can count on more than just Gentry being fired.

My question is, looking at next years draft, and thinking of where we will be drafting (I suspect we will make the playoffs, and draft in that 20-25 range) who would you like to see us draft?

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/8/...-deandre-ayton
http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/11/...-deandre-ayton

We are going to trade our 1st round pick. The most certain things in life are death, taxes, and Dell traded away our 1st round pick!

How many years now has the "next" draft been loaded? Before these guys even play a second of college ball too. This is simply too early.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

How many years now has the "next" draft been loaded? Before these guys even play a second of college ball too. This is simply too early.

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True, but then there is this from the Ringer article.

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Every year, the upcoming NBA draft class gets hyped like it’s a new season of The Bachelor. The taglines are more or less the same; just replace the words “shocking,” “intense,” and “drama” with “loaded,” “deeper,” and “upside.” Sometimes the hype is real. It’s usually not. It’s too early at this point to make strong declarations when prospects haven’t logged a single second in college basketball.

However, as we look ahead to the 2018 draft, we do know one thing: Its allure is completely different than that of the draft we witnessed in June. The class won’t have the same depth featured in the 2017 draft, which had a loaded lottery and mid-to-late first-round talent deep into the middle of the second round. Right now, 2018 is looking relatively shallow. But it’s also looking enormous. Whereas the 2017 draft was flooded with guards in the lottery, 2018 will feature a glut of bigs—DeAndre Ayton and Mohamed Bamba headline the more traditional bigs, while Michael Porter Jr. brings a 6-foot-10 size at forward. If the NCAA lets 6-foot-11 high school star Marvin Bagley reclassify and play college ball this year (which would make him draft eligible in 2018), the hype will reach a boiling point.

We’ve had only one draft so far this decade that was defined by its size—2015, which included Karl-Anthony Towns, Kristaps Porzingis, and Myles Turner. In a league that’s getting smaller and faster, bigs have been forced to diversify their games or perish. Ayton, Bamba, Bagley, and Porter are all extensions of the futuristic archetypes set by that Class of 2015; they are the embodiment of the league’s natural progression. Toss in Slovenian prospect Luka Doncic, a 6-foot-8 multipurpose playmaker, and it’s clear the future has been absorbed and adapted. Over the past three years, the NBA has made it clear that players need versatile traits to thrive in the future. The next generation has clearly been paying attention.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

How many years now has the "next" draft been loaded? Before these guys even play a second of college ball too. This is simply too early.

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He said "has the potential to be..."

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

This upcoming draft has the potential to be the most star studded draft since the 2004 Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, David West draft. With Michael Porter, Marvin Bagley, Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, and Luka Doncic, some teams are going to be going home with All Star players. The draft is top heavy for sure, but then you will have marksmen like Grayson Allen who will go in the mid to late first round, if there was ever a time to tank, that time is now.

I am not calling on us to tank, and we have absolutely no reason to tank. If we have a down season then you can count on Boogie leaving, and none of these young guys will be able to replace him on day one. Also, if we have a losing record you can count on more than just Gentry being fired.

My question is, looking at next years draft, and thinking of where we will be drafting (I suspect we will make the playoffs, and draft in that 20-25 range) who would you like to see us draft?

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/8/...-deandre-ayton
http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/11/...-deandre-ayton

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I swear people say this every freaking year! Next year draft class is gonna be on a 2004 level too because it has Rj Barret and Zion Williamson right?

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I swear people say this every freaking year! Next year draft class is gonna be on a 2004 level too because it has Rj Barret and Zion Williamson right?

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I haven't looked at that draft yet.

I only know that the guys I listed have been talked about as NBA ready, with two of them getting comparisons to impact ready on a Lebron James/AD level (Bagley/Porter).

I can't believe anything The Ringer says these days on the Celtics, Pelicans or the draft.
It's all in Simmons' agenda to help them get Anthony Davis.

I'm curious as to what the number of bigs in the 2018 draft does to the Boogie market, similar to how the number of guards in the 2018 draft limited the market for free agents in 2017.

Don't get me wrong, Boogie will get the same over market (whatever market ends up being) deal that Jrue got because agents now know exactly how to play Dell, but the chances of Boogie leaving could be lessened. Teams with cap space are expected to be the bad teams again next year. Those teams will have the opportunity to draft a young frontcourt player. Why would they sign a notoriously temperamental guy like DeMarcus when they can get a guy on rookie scale much cheaper? Are any of the teams with the cap space to sign Boogie going to be one piece away next year, to where they'd prefer the immediate impact of Boogie over the long term value of one of these rookies?

Similar to Jrue, we might expect Boogie to get a max, but it may actually end up being another gigantic 5 year deal that is still short of the max because there isn't a market.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

How many years now has the "next" draft been loaded? Before these guys even play a second of college ball too. This is simply too early.

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True dat, I heard that too often..

Is there any world where Cousins doesn't get a 5 year max? I'm not sure I could conceive of one. Maybe if he had a total meltdown, but realistically I'm pretty sure he is going to get the full max no matter what other free agents are out there and who is coming out of the draft.

Looking at the draft, man, the Celtics can be deadly. They will more than likely have 2 top 5 picks. With that said their roster includes

PG IT
SG Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart
SF Gordon Hayward, Jae Crowder, Jayson Tatum
PF Marcus Morris
C Al Horford

With that team already in place (IT is a FA, but he will be back) and then throwing in two top tier talents, man...that is going to be a beast in the East.

So if Davis CAN'T lead us to the playoffs this season,
should we blow it up?

I'm just wondering, what is the boiling point at which we take Boston's "Godfather" offer of:

All the picks
Tatum
Crowder
J. Brown?

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

So if Davis CAN'T lead us to the playoffs this season,
should we blow it up?

I'm just wondering, what is the boiling point at which we take Boston's "Godfather" offer of:

All the picks
Tatum
Crowder
J. Brown?

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Jesus, is that an option? If it is, and those picks are the #1 and #4 pick, I would do it.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Jesus, is that an option? If it is, and those picks are the #1 and #4 pick, I would do it.

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Just so long as you understand that you could literally go 50 years without ever drafting another player as good as Anthony Davis.

Don't believe me? Ask Milwaulkee, who went from Lew Alcindor to Giannis in a mere 43 years or so. Ask Sacramento who went from Oscar Robertson to Cousins with barely a draft ripple in between.

The entire point of having draft picks is to draft Anthony Davis. Once you've got him, picks that give you some tiny percentage chance of drafting another guy as good are comparatively worthless.

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Just so long as you understand that you could literally go 50 years without ever drafting another player as good as Anthony Davis.

Don't believe me? Ask Milwaulkee, who went from Lew Alcindor to Giannis in a mere 43 years or so. Ask Sacramento who went from Oscar Robertson to Cousins with barely a draft ripple in between.

The entire point of having draft picks is to draft Anthony Davis. Once you've got him, picks that give you some tiny percentage chance of drafting another guy as good are comparatively worthless.

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There is no joy in having a transcendent talent, but not making it past the first round of the playoffs (the 1 year out of 5 that he has been here). Can you trade him to Boston for 2 top 4 picks (1 of which many are saying is the most NBA ready player since the player you traded away)? If we are going to suck, we should do AD a favor and trade him for Boston's kings ransom (which the prior post mentioned). It would be better for all parties. The Celtics would get the player to put them over the top, and we would have the potential to have a great young starting 5.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

There is no joy in having a transcendent talent, but not making it past the first round of the playoffs (the 1 year out of 5 that he has been here). Can you trade him to Boston for 2 top 4 picks (1 of which many are saying is the most NBA ready player since the player you traded away)? If we are going to suck, we should do AD a favor and trade him for Boston's kings ransom (which the prior post mentioned). It would be better for all parties. The Celtics would get the player to put them over the top, and we would have the potential to have a great young starting 5.

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Are we Celtics fans or Pelicans fans?

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Are we Celtics fans or Pelicans fans?

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Are you fond of missing out on the playoffs with AD, or are you fond of missing out on the playoffs without AD.

If (and this is a hypothetical here) we miss the playoffs next season, I would absolutely trade AD for the Celtics kings ransom. Why? Because Boogie would bounce. Rondo would bounce. We would be back to where we were before last season where it was just AD and Jrue, and that team wasn't competitive (even without the injuries).

At the end of next season AD still has 3 years left, so he is an attractive piece for any potential buyer. If you can move him for the Celtics kings ransom you have instant cap space, young sexy talent across the board, and you can build around more assets than just one epic player and a bunch of also ran players.

PG- Jrue
SG- Jaylen Brown
SF- Jayson Tatem/Jae Crowder
PF- Michael Porter
C-DeAndre Ayton

There is no AD on that roster, but that is a team that is littered with talent across the board, and it keeps us out of that middle of the pack purgatory that we would find ourselves in if we only had AD and Jrue. Heck, with a roster like the one mentioned, you could still grab another lottery pick, and the year after you would find yourself in a situation like the Wolves/76ers where you are young and sexy and dangerous.

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Are you fond of missing out on the playoffs with AD, or are you fond of missing out on the playoffs without AD.

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What are the chances we miss out on the playoffs this year?

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

What are the chances we miss out on the playoffs this year?

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If we make the playoffs then this topic is a moot point, we wont have a lottery pick, and Boogie sticks around.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

There is no joy in having a transcendent talent, but not making it past the first round of the playoffs (the 1 year out of 5 that he has been here). Can you trade him to Boston for 2 top 4 picks (1 of which many are saying is the most NBA ready player since the player you traded away)? If we are going to suck, we should do AD a favor and trade him for Boston's kings ransom (which the prior post mentioned). It would be better for all parties. The Celtics would get the player to put them over the top, and we would have the potential to have a great young starting 5.

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You and I see eye to eye on this one.
I LOVE watching Davis but if we can't even get into the playoffs (much less out of the first round)
we should reboot and try to make a team that can.
Indeed, if we miss the playoffs this year Boogie and Rondo are both gone and we are left in a worse spot than we were before last season. (minus Buddy)

I LOVE watching Davis,
but I LOVE this team even more. Long term.

What you have to consider is who is actually going to make the decision on trading Davis? If we miss the playoffs, I think it's safe to assume that Demps and Gentry are out. So our 90 year old possibly senile owner and his trusty NFL salary cap blowing GM are going to hire their replacements...if they interview some Sam Hinkie wannabe who tells them they should trade Davis in order to be good in 3-4 years, what exactly is it about Benson and Loomis that would make anyone think they'd have the slightest bit of interest in that plan?

Can we stop with the trade Davis talk? It's bad enough most teams are salivating at the thought of the Boogie/Brow experiment failing but let's not preemptively crap on the team before the season's even begun? We as fans of the team should have some degree of hope and not constantly feed into this narrative. IF things don't work this season, THEN let's have these discussions. If you want to go play GM, fire up 2k and have at it. Even if Boston swapped us their entire team, coach, and draft picks, we would STILL have to figure out a way to beat the Warriors in the west. Let's give Boogie/Brow a chance.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me for fans to want to trade a top 5-10 NBA talent who recently turned 24 for a bunch of ping pong balls. Rarely do teams hit on a talent such as AD (even if they have the #1 pick), so to give that up for a merely a chance/hope to find a good player makes no sense to me. I think too many just like the potential of the unknown.

If you don't want to discuss the topic, don't come to the thread. Why do you feel that everyone who wants to discuss the topic should be denied the opportunity? What, it hurts your feelings?

These kids are going to be talented. The talent in the 2018 draft (overall) might be low, but the top 4 guys are going to be amazing, and we can revisit this thread in 3 years to crap on that prediction, but those kids are going to be great.

If we miss the playoffs this season, then we will lose 2 of our best players, and we will be back to where we were pre-Buddy, and nobody can argue that that was a playoff caliber team. If we make the playoffs, then we can kiss goodbye any chance of drafting one of these kids because we wont have a high enough pick.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

If you don't want to discuss the topic, don't come to the thread. Why do you feel that everyone who wants to discuss the topic should be denied the opportunity? What, it hurts your feelings?

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What are you talking about? Are we not discussing what you posted? Who is denying you any opportunity?

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me for fans to want to trade a top 5-10 NBA talent who recently turned 24 for a bunch of ping pong balls. Rarely do teams hit on a talent such as AD (even if they have the #1 pick), so to give that up for a merely a chance/hope to find a good player makes no sense to me. I think too many just like the potential of the unknown.

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That talent alone hasn't helped us win.
The front office has bumbled almost every chance to put together a good team around him.
If they don't make the playoffs and Boogie jets, I can see Davis starting to wonder why he'd want to stick around.

I'll be clear on the fact that I'd only want to trade him if it's already getting to the point that we aren't winning with him and he's likely to bolt.
In that scenario, I'm not holding him until we only get Oladipo/Sabonis offers.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

That talent alone hasn't helped us win.
The front office has bumbled almost every chance to put together a good team around him.
If they don't make the playoffs and Boogie jets, I can see Davis starting to wonder why he'd want to stick around.

I'll be clear on the fact that I'd only want to trade him if it's already getting to the point that we aren't winning with him and he's likely to bolt.
In that scenario, I'm not holding him until we only get Oladipo/Sabonis offers.

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the west is stack but i think we can make the playoffs if we are healthy........if we dont make the playoffs,,IMO i dont think its a sure thing that boogie leave....boogie may stay because demps and gentry should be fired.....a new GM and coach just may be the change those 2 need that play a different offense that gentry does.....so maybe a new coach can talk boogie into staying and build with AD.....

the new coach and GM will know their time is limited because they will have 3 years to put a winning team around AD to keep him here and for them to keep their jobs long term......and if boogie does leave,,a sign and trade maybe possible to send him where he wants to go if that team need space to sign him....

So yeah,,im all for not trading AD and letting him be here til he is able to leave on his own....

So many ifs. . .

How about let's see how this year plays out then we will have a much better idea of where we stand. There's way too much chicken little going on in here.

If people keep saying it, they can will it to be so.

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What are you talking about? Are we not discussing what you posted? Who is denying you any opportunity?

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This.

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Originally Posted by Fraunpetri

Can we stop with the trade Davis talk? It's bad enough most teams are salivating at the thought of the Boogie/Brow experiment failing but let's not preemptively crap on the team before the season's even begun? We as fans of the team should have some degree of hope and not constantly feed into this narrative. IF things don't work this season, THEN let's have these discussions. If you want to go play GM, fire up 2k and have at it. Even if Boston swapped us their entire team, coach, and draft picks, we would STILL have to figure out a way to beat the Warriors in the west. Let's give Boogie/Brow a chance.

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I pray we make playoffs.. I don't want to sit through another rebuild watching 19-21 year olds grow. Especially since we will have to trade them for more 19-21 year olds when they near their prime. If we can't win with the 2 best frontcourt players in the league and a top 5-7 backcourt, then what's the point in even caring?

You can discuss whatever you want but I as a fan am tired of fellow fans who feed this narrative. Too many of us have become gun-shy with CP leaving and a historically successful team like the Celtics keeps this fiction going to give their fanbase hope that they will land a huge fish with the tons of draft picks they've stockpiled. The reason those stories are put out there is to make us consider trading away probably the best player our franchise has ever had as well as provide click-bait during slow news months. Even AD admitted he's asked these questions from kids at his camp - do you think they just thought of it themselves or is this a story that has been shoved down our throats so many times the impressionable believe it could be true? I haven't and won't stop you from speculating about the AMAZING haul of unbelievable 18 year olds and role players we could get for our superstar but I wanted to point out how I don't believe we as fans should keep this crap going. You could follow the 76ers if you like potential; how many top draft picks has it taken for people to get excited about them?

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the west is stack but i think we can make the playoffs if we are healthy........if we dont make the playoffs,,IMO i dont think its a sure thing that boogie leave....boogie may stay because demps and gentry should be fired.....a new GM and coach just may be the change those 2 need that play a different offense that gentry does.....so maybe a new coach can talk boogie into staying and build with AD.....

the new coach and GM will know their time is limited because they will have 3 years to put a winning team around AD to keep him here and for them to keep their jobs long term......and if boogie does leave,,a sign and trade maybe possible to send him where he wants to go if that team need space to sign him....

So yeah,,im all for not trading AD and letting him be here til he is able to leave on his own....

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This sounds like a good scenario with Boogie staying and he, AD & Jrue building for the future with a new front office.
The thing that hamstrings this however, is that Boogie re-signing would give us another player getting paid more than Davis.
That doesn't allow for capspace for anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Fraunpetri

You can discuss whatever you want but I as a fan am tired of fellow fans who feed this narrative. Too many of us have become gun-shy with CP leaving and a historically successful team like the Celtics keeps this fiction going to give their fanbase hope that they will land a huge fish with the tons of draft picks they've stockpiled. The reason those stories are put out there is to make us consider trading away probably the best player our franchise has ever had as well as provide click-bait during slow news months. Even AD admitted he's asked these questions from kids at his camp - do you think they just thought of it themselves or is this a story that has been shoved down our throats so many times the impressionable believe it could be true? I haven't and won't stop you from speculating about the AMAZING haul of unbelievable 18 year olds and role players we could get for our superstar but I wanted to point out how I don't believe we as fans should keep this crap going. You could follow the 76ers if you like potential; how many top draft picks has it taken for people to get excited about them?

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It's not necessarily a narrative about potential.
And it's realism to discuss superstars leaving. Alonzo Mourning, Larry Johnson, Chris Paul. (Who has really come to this team, succeeded and stayed?)

I think the focus is that:
Even Lebron James and Michael Jordan needed help.
Anthony Davis certainly needs the same, but the front office has screwed the start of his NBA career up so badly (in regards to how the team is built) that if the twin towers "experiment" fails we're gonna need to plan for the future.

And at this point in the league, a team full of solid-to-really good players and assets is good enough to make the playoffs (something we can't seem to do)
and eventually attract the superstar you need to put it over the top.

It's a sad thing, but it's real.
I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
However long that is...

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It's not necessarily a narrative about potential.
And it's realism to discuss superstars leaving. Alonzo Mourning, Larry Johnson, Chris Paul. (Who has really come to this team, succeeded and stayed?)

I think the focus is that:
Even Lebron James and Michael Jordan needed help.
Anthony Davis certainly needs the same, but the front office has screwed the start of his NBA career up so badly (in regards to how the team is built) that if the twin towers "experiment" fails we're gonna need to plan for the future.

And at this point in the league, a team full of solid-to-really good players and assets is good enough to make the playoffs (something we can't seem to do)
and eventually attract the superstar you need to put it over the top.

It's a sad thing, but it's real.
I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
However long that is...

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But a bunch of solid players around four all-stars is not good enough to make playoffs? When 2 of the all-stars are top 10 players?

Also it has never been the case where 2 allstar bigs have been on the same team and not made the playoffs. Randolph/Gasol, Horford/Millsap, Boozer/Noah, Boozer/Okur, Wallace/Wallace, Griffin/Jordan, Webber/Divac, Webber/Miller, Hibbert/West, Gasol/Bynum/Odom, Hakeem/Sampson, Duncan/Robinson. Bigs are and forever will be a premium in this league. And we have the 2 best in the entire league and possibly the most dynamic big pairing of all time, since they both can play like guards. I don't understand the pessimism behind this "experiment" failing when history suggests it has a 0% chance of that happening. 3pt shooting is nice but so is rebounding, paint defense and interior scoring.

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I don't understand the pessimism behind this "experiment" failing when history suggests it has a 0% chance of that happening.

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When everyone makes it safely to their destination, no one bats an eye.
When there's a car wreck, everyone stops and stares.

I hope we do make the playoffs and start a dynasty this year.
But it's the slow point in the offseason, so it's all conspiracy theories and medical staff talk until 2K comes out.

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When everyone makes it safely to their destination, no one bats an eye.
When there's a car wreck, everyone stops and stares.

I hope we do make the playoffs and start a dynasty this year.
But it's the slow point in the offseason, so it's all conspiracy theories and medical staff talk until 2K comes out.

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Lol true

I don't have a problem throwing that as an idea. It's stupid slow for NBA talk so nothing wrong with filler conversation. I think everyone is on board for a playoff run but if we fall flat, what could be a move to fix it. I think we'll know by the all star break. Then depending on what's going on you can adjust.

Hypothetical (I don't want to get rid of either cousins or Davis but for conversation)
A total rebuild should start at the trade deadline.
1. If cousins makes it known he won't resign, trade him. I'm sure you could get a first and maybe a player
2. Wait till after the draft lottery if you want to move Davis. Celtics 2 first and Tatum would be a good start
3. Move Jrue if possible
4. I take bad contracts for high pick and move to get as many first over the next 3 years.
5. Plan to have as much money as you can for that 3rd year so all bad contracts should end there so you could potentially sign 2 really good players

Porter, Ayton, Jackson, Diallo, and Tatum would be a nice start to a rebuild if had to.

The season has yet to start, yet this board wants to talk "blow it all up" scenarios. All of which include the current flavor of the month--have an entire team full of 22 and under year olds.

Then when those guys turn 25, it's who can we trade them to for some draft picks---the great wonder.

Jesus how sad.

The thing is there is no plan B. There are no more contingency plans. We are in do or die territory. If we lose 2 top 10 players, there is no coming back. That would be a death blow to a Franchise that has been fighting to get off it's death bed. Fan morale would be in the gutter. The only choice would be to move the team. Benson is too old to sit through 5 more losing seasons watching 21 year olds. We will win this season not only because we're talented but also because we have to win. We shouldn't be wasting energy on contingency plans unless you plan on being Supersonic fans.

I actually think we'll do awesome as in top 3 seed and this conversation was just that a fun conversation.

NO MORE TANKING. My god I'm so tired of being the ****** of the Southwest division.

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I don't have a problem throwing that as an idea. It's stupid slow for NBA talk so nothing wrong with filler conversation. I think everyone is on board for a playoff run but if we fall flat, what could be a move to fix it. I think we'll know by the all star break. Then depending on what's going on you can adjust.

Hypothetical (I don't want to get rid of either cousins or Davis but for conversation)
A total rebuild should start at the trade deadline.
1. If cousins makes it known he won't resign, trade him. I'm sure you could get a first and maybe a player
2. Wait till after the draft lottery if you want to move Davis. Celtics 2 first and Tatum would be a good start
3. Move Jrue if possible
4. I take bad contracts for high pick and move to get as many first over the next 3 years.
5. Plan to have as much money as you can for that 3rd year so all bad contracts should end there so you could potentially sign 2 really good players

Porter, Ayton, Jackson, Diallo, and Tatum would be a nice start to a rebuild if had to.

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This is very depressing convo that I'm not ready to have nor believe will something we'll have to do. BUT my opening demand in exchange for AD would be for 5 picks. Whatever combo you want to do. As long as I'm getting at least 3 #1's. Especially from Celtics. You want him its going to cost you. They owe us just for the stupid fake trade scenarios alone.

Like I tell people, there may be only one player I would trade Davis for and that's LeBron. And I still may ask for a #1 as well.

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I actually think we'll do awesome as in top 3 seed and this conversation was just that a fun conversation.

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Top 3 is not realistic.. unless we get traded to the Eastern Conference

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

I don't have a problem throwing that as an idea. It's stupid slow for NBA talk so nothing wrong with filler conversation. I think everyone is on board for a playoff run but if we fall flat, what could be a move to fix it. I think we'll know by the all star break. Then depending on what's going on you can adjust.

Hypothetical (I don't want to get rid of either cousins or Davis but for conversation)
A total rebuild should start at the trade deadline.
1. If cousins makes it known he won't resign, trade him. I'm sure you could get a first and maybe a player
2. Wait till after the draft lottery if you want to move Davis. Celtics 2 first and Tatum would be a good start
3. Move Jrue if possible
4. I take bad contracts for high pick and move to get as many first over the next 3 years.
5. Plan to have as much money as you can for that 3rd year so all bad contracts should end there so you could potentially sign 2 really good players

Porter, Ayton, Jackson, Diallo, and Tatum would be a nice start to a rebuild if had to.

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Dell is fighting for his job. Hard to think what can happen to let him trade Boogie (during the season).
If DMC won't work - he will (and should) be fired immediately...

I understand deliberating about ideas - but two things remain.

The only way that Boogie will be traded during the season will mean dumpster fire inside the Pels.
Dell and Alvin are working hard to make Boogie happy. They even allowed his little brother to train with them.
TBH don't see any way where he will be traded during the season. He wants to see what to expect from the franchise. He may qualify there for the PO. He can earn most money in PEls uniform.
Also - he may buy into DoItBig thing...

As to Jrue. He is owed 25-26 millions per year. With additional 2,4 millions of likely incentives.
Try to move it....

Maybe if he will play at the All Star level.
But still - he is seen as injury prone player leaguewide.

It will take at least one year to believe (for others) - that his injuries are past him...

Its like Pelicans fans are traumatized and just can't bear to root for the team to actually win.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

We are going to trade our 1st round pick. The most certain things in life are death, taxes, and Dell traded away our 1st round pick!

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SO TRUE