Would you listen to offers for Minny 1st rounder?

Demps said at the press conference that he really believes Wolves will be better this season, and that pick is not a lock to be a high one. If he really believes this, do you think he is shopping the pick around the league to teams that have less faith in the Wolves?

If teams think that pick is guaranteed to be top 5 in a somewhat loaded draft, what would they give up for it? Do you listen to those offers and maybe pull the trigger or do you take the risk and bet on another year of T'Wolves misery.

Assets are like stocks and this stock is pretty high right now. It could go up a little higher, but it has more room to fall than rise. I would at least listen. You?

are you crazy?

Absolutely not. Sounds like Demps is preparing himself, just incase they are good.

They're gonna tank.

To deep of a draft id take a chance and wait it out to see where that pick falls.

I'd hold on to the pick.

Any offer that will be coming our way for the pick will most likely have us taking someone that's not on their rookie contract anymore.

I want the cheap young talent more than anything. That pick will at least be top 10, and in this draft, that might as well be top 5.

What for? Ideally we want a young stud big to match with Gordon. That list is pretty short and a little sketchy.

Kevin Love
DeMarcus Cousins
Greg Monroe

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Originally Posted by BP225

What for? Ideally we want a young stud big to match with Gordon. That list is pretty short and a little sketchy.

Kevin Love
DeMarcus Cousins
Greg Monroe

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I was thinking something along those lines- add Brook Lopez to that list if NJ goes into total rebuild mode if they get the word Deron won't re-sign and they trade him in February.

Hornets would still have their own 1st rounder and a young vet in Lopez as opposed to taking their chances in the lottery and then taking their chances again on a 19 year old.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I was thinking something along those lines- add Brook Lopez to that list if NJ goes into total rebuild mode if they get the word Deron won't re-sign and they trade him in February.

Hornets would still have their own 1st rounder and a young vet in Lopez as opposed to taking their chances in the lottery and then taking their chances again on a 19 year old.

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Assuming that he, or any veteran, wants to stay in New Orleans with no owner, and that the league would even let us do another big trade like that...

I will list to offers and reject the silly ones, consider the others.

Pick for Iguodala = silly.

Pick for Rubio and Love = hmmmm

Pick, Aminu, Gordon, Kaman for Paul and Bledsoe = pure comedy

I wouldn't give away the pick. It's way too valuable for a team like us. We need to find that face of the franchise player and our 2 picks in the first in that very deep draft increases our chance at finding him. Keep the pick, and don't look back.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I was thinking something along those lines- add Brook Lopez to that list if NJ goes into total rebuild mode if they get the word Deron won't re-sign and they trade him in February.

Hornets would still have their own 1st rounder and a young vet in Lopez as opposed to taking their chances in the lottery and then taking their chances again on a 19 year old.

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I was thinking about this, and honestly the pick has a good chance to be just as valuable on draft night. Say the Hornets have 2 picks in the top 10. Don't you think some team would love to move up and would be willing to trade one of their established players for a chance to draft one of these studs? And if the Hornets kept one and then got an established player for that chance, it could be something good. Just a thought.

Absolutely not. Even if the Wolves aren't the most awful team in the entire league like most people think, there is still no way that their pick won't be in the lottery. Wolves ceiling is late lottery pick. If you don't think that, then you pretty much think that the wolves are a playoff team which i just can't see at all. So if the pick turns out to be a late lottery pick, in this draft you're still looking at some REALLY good players.

I'm starting to worry that instead of rebuilding Demps is going to make some rash moves to patch things up and make a .500ish 8th seed type of team. I really don't see what you could get for that pick that would be better than it's potential. Multiple picks? An extremely promising player under 25?

Now is not the time to be trading for 'established players.' This team needs to build a base first.

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Originally Posted by 42

I will list to offers and reject the silly ones, consider the others.

Pick for Iguodala = silly.

Pick for Rubio and Love = hmmmm

Pick, Aminu, Gordon, Kaman for Paul and Bledsoe = pure comedy

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Exactly- I would even consider pick for Rubio and Derrick Williams.

This is an asset, just like any other asset, and you should at least keep an open mind IMO.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Poster

I'm starting to worry that instead of rebuilding Demps is going to make some rash moves to patch things up and make a .500ish 8th seed type of team.

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I've been thinking the same thing, and it looks like it's going in that direction. I don't think that we're going to be as bad as everyone thinks, and Demps might have some pressure put on him to win now.

We need to either tank, or be contenders. Period. And the latter isn't happening anytime soon.

Of course you want Dell Demps to listen to offers. He's not doing his job if he's not listening to even the craziest proposals. But in reality you want to think certain things are not tradible like say a top level pg or a number one overall draft pick.

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Originally Posted by praff7

I've been thinking the same thing, and it looks like it's going in that direction. I don't think that we're going to be as bad as everyone thinks, and Demps might have some pressure put on him to win now.

We need to either tank, or be contenders. Period. And the latter isn't happening anytime soon.

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Unknown Poster, relax man this is coming from a poster, not Demps, Demps understand how value this pick is and the only way i can see him trading it, is if someone offer some young up and coming players plus their number 1.

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Originally Posted by CheapSeats

Of course you want Dell Demps to listen to offers. He's not doing his job if he's not listening to even the craziest proposals. But in reality you want to think certain things are not tradible like say a top level pg or a number one overall draft pick.

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How annoying would it be to be a Minnesota fan right now? Two years, two high lottery picks going to another team.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Exactly- I would even consider pick for Rubio and Derrick Williams.

This is an asset, just like any other asset, and you should at least keep an open mind IMO.

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I would not consider it for Rubio and Williams.

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Originally Posted by praff7

How annoying would it be to be a Minnesota fan right now? Two years, two high lottery picks going to another team.

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Yeah, not to mention this pick was from a trade in 2005!

You're talking about unproven talent in the lotto, then say you would consider a trade involving two completely unproven talents. Neither have stepped on a court.

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Originally Posted by HORNETSFAN

Yeah, not to mention this pick was from a trade in 2005!

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Traded for Marko Jaric

I like this guy's enthusiasm.

I would consider trading the pick for another pick that we KNOW will be low. Like, maybe a swap including other players, of picks with Toronto? I mean we know Toronto will be a very low pick.

What players could we possibly get with the pick? I see some people suggesting Love, and I just don't see that as a option. Do we really think Minn. would consider trading Kevin Love for their own pick back? Sounds crazy to me but I would do it in a heart beat. A. HEARTBEAT.

As for Brook Lopez? Not too high on him. He doesn't do what I want in center as well as I would like: Defend and Rebound.

Greg Monroe? I would consider it. I mean we would still have our own pick and he is due to break out at any time.

They will have a worse record than us. If were going to trade a pick trade ours

A) Technically, we are getting the better pick of Minn and their own pick. 1 knee injury in LA has us wearing Lakers jerseys for 4 games instead of Thunder jerseys.

B) We can trade the worse of ours and the A) pick.

C) I don't think Minnesota having been assigned the pick sort of would affect the economics of the trasaction negatively. Needing a pick is just that. In fact, it's the pick they can most positively affect to the tune of 82 games instead of at most 4 directly. Sounds like a plus to ol' 42 if he's selling.

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Originally Posted by praff7

Traded for Marko Jaric

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I wonder if they were more interested in trading for his wife than him, lol

Seriously, even if they are better than you are expecting. At worst, I'm still expecting a top 10 pick. That in this draft is valuable enough for me.

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Originally Posted by 42

A) Technically, we are getting the better pick of Minn and their own pick. 1 knee injury in LA has us wearing Lakers jerseys for 4 games instead of Thunder jerseys.

B) We can trade the worse of ours and the A) pick.

C) I don't think Minnesota having been assigned the pick sort of would affect the economics of the trasaction negatively. Needing a pick is just that. In fact, it's the pick they can most positively affect to the tune of 82 games instead of at most 4 directly. Sounds like a plus to ol' 42 if he's selling.

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I'm lost. I didn't read the whole thread but are you talking about we get the better pick between the Wolves and Clippers? Because Boston owns LA's pick, maybe it's protected from Boston though?

I'll also say Minny will still be bad, Dell is just trying to be nice.

if they offered us Kevin Love, i'd trade it.

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Originally Posted by DiMaggio dunks

if they offered us Kevin Love, i'd trade it.

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Me you and every body else. But that would give us two free agent stars on the market next year... ESPN would go crazy saying how bad they wanted out.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Me you and every body else. But that would give us two free agent stars on the market next year... ESPN would go crazy saying how bad they wanted out.

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the topic next year for ESPN is how CP's knee is shot and how the Clippers are in a panic after everyone thought they'd be Finals contenders.

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Originally Posted by CP3forMVP

I'm lost. I didn't read the whole thread but are you talking about we get the better pick between the Wolves and Clippers? Because Boston owns LA's pick, maybe it's protected from Boston though?

I'll also say Minny will still be bad, Dell is just trying to be nice.

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I gotcha. This pick that we are calling "the Minnesota pick" is actually the better pick of the Clippers and the Minnesota pick. Boston has the right to the worse pick of the two. Everyone assumes that will be the Minnesota pick, and rightly so, but there is a chance . . .

(I put this in my news pieces . . . tsk, tsk . . . you should be reading those!)

http://www.pelicansreport.com/HRForu...t-Not-That-Guy

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/12/15/p...de-transcript/

"The 2012 first round pick coming to the Hornets will be the more favorable between the Minnesota Timberwolves' or the Los Angeles Clippers' picks." -- Hugh Weber

I'd take your chances with the Minnesota pick, worse case it's a late lottery. This draft is so deep at the top you can get very good young, cheap talent at #10

davis barnes drummond come on down

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Originally Posted by Unknown Poster

I'm starting to worry that instead of rebuilding Demps is going to make some rash moves to patch things up and make a .500ish 8th seed type of team. I really don't see what you could get for that pick that would be better than it's potential. Multiple picks? An extremely promising player under 25?

Now is not the time to be trading for 'established players.' This team needs to build a base first.

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Exactly, unless we suddenly found ourselves on the fat end of a disgruntled star trade scenario, we need to keep this pick in our pockets.

Come on if kings come here and give Reke or cousins... they can get the pick.

Yes you listen, but that doesn't mean you deal it.

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Originally Posted by Kcazbarach

Yes you listen, but that doesn't mean you deal it.

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Exactly. You can listen to offers without committing.

yea you have to listen but you dont have to accept

I'd definitely listen.

I would also trade the pick for Brooke Lopez or Kevin Love. Such big men are hard to come by in this league. A Gordon / Lopez combo is a great core for us. Plus, we would have our own pick to add that third banana to the mix.

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Originally Posted by StefanC

I'd definitely listen.

I would also trade the pick for Brooke Lopez or Kevin Love. Such big men are hard to come by in this league. A Gordon / Lopez combo is a great core for us. Plus, we would have our own pick to add that third banana to the mix.

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Lopez doesn't rebound nearly as well as I would like from a center. I would take Kevin Love for the pick and not look back. Gordon/Love would be phenominal. We would need a defensive minded shot blocking center in the middle. Then we would have a beautiful core.

Brook Lopez sucks. Love is tolerable.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Exactly- I would even consider pick for Rubio and Derrick Williams.

This is an asset, just like any other asset, and you should at least keep an open mind IMO.

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for Rubio AND love: do it now or i kill you, Dell. For Rubio and Derrick Williams do it!
That pick it's overrated, Adelman is a GREAT coach, they have a lot of young talented players in this 4-game-a-week season :bah: :hot: :mad:

I'd listen to any offers. The Wolves are going to be better than most think. Like, a pick in the teens. Hope I'm wrong.

Hmm I wouldn't trade a chance at Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond for anybody in this league. They have more potential than anybody that is still on their rookie cobtract. And I don't want a player that's on a max deal unless he will make us instant contenders.

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Originally Posted by Hornets78

Brook Lopez sucks. Love is tolerable.

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Tolerable? Are you kidding? The guy is damned good.

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Originally Posted by Hornets78

Brook Lopez sucks. Love is tolerable.

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how much have you had to drink?

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Originally Posted by HORNETSFAN

Tolerable? Are you kidding? The guy is damned good.

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Tolerable in the sense of giving up the draft pick. I would do it because he's established. Not a franchise player, but a very good player.

Lopez isn't neither.