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Tony Kornheiser's show?Quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Hugo
The korn show is calling for an email jahad on your site.
Any particular reason why or are his ratings just that bad?
What is up with Tony Kornheiser? Maybe he got a few too many complaints about he and his jerk friend Aldridge?
Why are you guys saying these things and you don't even know what he said. Even if he doesnt have the same opinion as many of you, thats no reason to insinuate things that you have no clue about.
Your right. He might be asking for his fans to undertake one of those good jihads.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
Why are you guys saying these things and you don't even know what he said. Even if he doesnt have the same opinion as many of you, thats no reason to insinuate things that you have no clue about.
What the heck are you talking about?Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
Why are you guys saying these things and you don't even know what he said. Even if he doesnt have the same opinion as many of you, thats no reason to insinuate things that you have no clue about.
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Originally posted by HORNETSFAN
What the heck are you talking about?
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What is up with Tony Kornheiser? Maybe he got a few too many complaints about he and his jerk friend Aldridge?
And did anybody even confirm he said anything about NOhornets.com?Quote:
Any particular reason why or are his ratings just that bad?
What was said?
My point exactly :)Quote:
Originally posted by WeatherNLU
What was said?
I just caught the last two minutes of the show and he closed by saying "you New Orleans people need to get a grip". At least that is what it sounded like. Did anyone else hear this?
How about a jahad against Tony's show? email at [email protected]
He has to be reacting to the negative e-mails and calls that have been sent to Aldridge. Hey, the guy made some boneheaded, ill-informed comments and we are well within our rights to dispute them. And I plan to do just that during DA's live chat on Wed.
To take up for Aldridge is to condone his comments. :mad:
No one asked you to judge if comments made on this site are up to "your standards." A listener posts a comment and responses were made. Everyone here knows Kornheiser got emails complaining about Aldridge's comments.Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
And did anybody even confirm he said anything about NOhornets.com?
By the way, has ANYONE received even a "canned" response from ESPN. It looks as if they will just "blow it off."
I just listened to part of his show. It was the guys who talk during the break that called for an "informational jihad" on the site. I only got around 20 e-mails and Andrus got around 25. Most said that it wasn't a "gaffe" and to get my story straight. This is laughable due to the fact that the lead ESPN NBA writer knows little to nothing about the subject to which he's reporting on (the relocation). His comments also show his bias. At least now, I know that he has a negative view of New Orleans and will discount his reports based on that.
And I still find it amazing that David Aldridge asks, "What if a tornado hits New Orleans?" Absolutely amazing.
The problem is that when a reporter has a negative opinion of NO, many people here take it too personal. As much as you want to make out of Aldridge's comments, ESPN could care less. The same thing could have easily been said on PTI. There's nothing wrong with getting upset at people who talk bad about NO (the same thing happens in Charlotte). But to call everyone who doesn't have the same opinion an idiot shows very little maturity. Charlotte has its share immature people as well.Quote:
Originally posted by HORNETSFAN
No one asked you to judge if comments made on this site are up to "your standards." A listener posts a comment and responses were made. Everyone here knows Kornheiser got emails complaining about Aldridge's comments.
By the way, has ANYONE received even a "canned" response from ESPN. It looks as if they will just "blow it off."
He did not offer an opinion. He factually stereotyped the entire New Orleans area. I wonder how he feels about stereotypes. I wonder if he were stereotyped in a negative way on a national media outlet, how he would react. Many people have been fired or suspended for making stereotypical statements. I guess it all depends on who is saying it and who they are saying it about. This is just another example of the double standards out there. This time with political correctness and sensitivity issues. :mad:
Calling NO a great city is also stereotypical. You act like nobody has ever said anything nice about NO. I'm sure everyday you could read or hear something bad and good about any given city.Quote:
Originally posted by Harvey Hornet
He did not offer an opinion. He factually stereotyped the entire New Orleans area. I wonder how he feels about stereotypes. I wonder if he were stereotyped in a negative way on a national media outlet, how he would react. Many people have been fired or suspended for making stereotypical statements. I guess it all depends on who is saying it and who they are saying it about. This is just another example of the double standards out there. This time with political correctness and sensitivity issues. :mad:
All I am saying is this guy gets away with it and guys like Dan Issel lose their job. Issel directed his comment at one man. DA did our whole city. If it had been Mike Greenberg, he would have had to apologize on the air. Better yet, he might have had the good sense to do so on his own. :mad: :mad:
David Aldridge thimks we do not deserve a chance to get an NBA team. This is the same guy who thinks his hometown of Washington D.C, should get the Expos. HEY, didn't the Senators (MLB) move out of that town twice?
How can you even compare the two.Quote:
Originally posted by Harvey Hornet
All I am saying is this guy gets away with it and guys like Dan Issel lose their job. Issel directed his comment at one man. DA did our whole city. If it had been Mike Greenberg, he would have had to apologize on the air. Better yet, he might have had the good sense to do so on his own. :mad: :mad:
Also, Aldridge does this for his job. There's a big difference.
What, criticizes entire communities? It would be different if he just said N.O. was a bad economical area or something of the sort. However, he degraded an entire community with his stereotypes. I am sure Charlotteans would have been upset if these things were said about their community. Honestly, it does not involve you, so it is easy for you to judge others.Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
How can you even compare the two.
Also, Aldridge does this for his job. There's a big difference.
EXACTLY!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Harvey Hornet
He did not offer an opinion. He factually stereotyped the entire New Orleans area. I wonder how he feels about stereotypes. I wonder if he were stereotyped in a negative way on a national media outlet, how he would react. Many people have been fired or suspended for making stereotypical statements. I guess it all depends on who is saying it and who they are saying it about. This is just another example of the double standards out there. This time with political correctness and sensitivity issues. :mad:
Aldridge's criticism with N.O. has nothing to do with his love for Charlotte or his desire for the NBA to remain in Charlotte. It also has nothing to do with reality. He has other obvious motives.:mad:
I wonder what Charlotte's response would be if Aldridge had said they are a town full of jew haters because of the recently released comments by Billy Graham.
Or that North Carolina is a racist and homophobic place due to the long sting of comments made by Senator Helms who North Carolina re-elects like clockwork.
A case could be made for this based on the "offical" record in the Senate, not some idiot reporters "opinion" based on his own bias.
To make it clear, I do not think for a minute that the debate should be on matters of this nature (ie political & social), but people in glass houses should not throw stones.
And the National Media and especially the North Carolina media seems to be throwing them at New Orleans and Louisiana with a lack of restraint.
The debate should stay on the ability of the area to support the team and that should be done by comparing the effort in New Orleans to similar efforts made nationally.
Agreed!Quote:
Originally posted by MarignyJohn
To make it clear, I do not think for a minute that the debate should be on matters of this nature (ie political & social), but people in glass houses should not throw stones.
And the National Media and especially the North Carolina media seems to be throwing them at New Orleans and Louisiana with a lack of restraint.
The debate should stay on the ability of the area to support the team and that should be done by comparing the effort in New Orleans to similar efforts made nationally.
Our city has been bashed as much as NO in this. But I don't see a lot of protest coming out of CLT when somebody writes and article or makes a quote.Quote:
Originally posted by Adam the Legend
I wonder what Charlotte's response would be if Aldridge had said they are a town full of jew haters because of the recently released comments by Billy Graham.
Show me one article where Charlotte has been bashed at anywhere near the same level that New Orleans has.
RAINWATER, you said it best, you are a ROOKIE!
I would hope that your elected leaders are moral enough to fight back against slurs against your city and state! Are you saying if a media person makes comments about the people of the Carolina's as being bigoted, no one there cares enough to respond? Not trying to inflame you, but I would think any decent person would take offense. I by the way to not subscribe to any theory that your city or state is any more anti-semetic than any other area of the country.Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
Our city has been bashed as much as NO in this.
In all honesty, no one in the NBA or the sports media covering the NBA has made such statements against North Carolina.
This matter has no more business in the relm of this debate than does the weather patterns (possiblity of a TORNADO???, I did not say it Aldridge did!) wiping out New Orleans, the lazzie faire attitude socially of people in New Orleans, characterizations of the populace as drunk and chasing women 24 hours, I could go on and on......with attacks by the national sports media against New Orleans in the past three months.
But I don't see a lot of protest coming out of CLT when somebody writes and article or makes a quote.
What is this, some type of {edited} contest to see who has had the most bad things said about them. North Carolina is a big sports state. Anytime you have major sports in your area, you will always have people bashing the state/cities. If you aren't used to it by now, thats too bad, because it will never stop.Quote:
Originally posted by MarignyJohn
I would hope that your elected leaders are moral enough to fight back against slurs against your city and state! Are you saying if a media person makes comments about the people of the Carolina's as being bigoted, no one there cares enough to respond? Not trying to inflame you, but I would think any decent person would take offense. I by the way to not subscribe to any theory that your city or state is any more anti-semetic than any other area of the country.
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Originally posted by rainwater
What is this, some type of {edited} contest to see who has had the most bad things said about them. North Carolina is a big sports state. Anytime you have major sports in your area, you will always have people bashing the state/cities. If you aren't used to it by now, thats too bad, because it will never stop.
No, just trying to see if you folks have any self respect in North Carolina. We do not take unjustified attacks against our state lightly, if that seems unusual, I could care less. We have a pride that must not exist in the Carolina's.
We have confidence in NC. Perhaps that is lacking in NO which would be the reason for people acting so upset.Quote:
Originally posted by MarignyJohn
No, just trying to see if you folks have any self respect in North Carolina. We do not take unjustified attacks against our state lightly, if that seems unusual, I could care less. We have a pride that must not exist in the Carolina's.
The point here is that David Aldridge inadvertantly broadcasted some derogative statements he did not want heard on the air. He did not want them heard, because they were nasty things to say. He knew they were ugly statements. Things he would not want to be held accountable for in public. Well.....he said them and meant them. While he wished they would not be broadcast, they were. Anyone with any intelligence, no matter which city you are from, knows the innacuracies of stereotyping. Aldirdge, of all people should know that. So, he is an ignorant fool. Big deal. I think ESPN, not him, but ESPN owes some sort of acknowledgement of his improper comments. An apology from him is useless. He meant it. ESPN on the other hand can say they do not condone his type of remarks and hold him accountable. That is my issue. Anyone with brains would not be hurt by his words. They are not entirely true. The parts that had some truth were said in an angry and hateful manner. They are the words of a bitter and ignorant "man". The good news for him is that the network does not seem to be interested in holding him accountable. What if Dan Patrick had said DC was a predominantly black city infested with crack users, dope using mayors and useless street thugs. He would be right, but he would be in deep sh!t. You know why too. It is just not the kind of things that are supposed to come from people in a national media position.:mad: :mad: :mad:
I'm afraid an apology would only confirm people's beliefs about the city. The truth is very few people heard this. By issuing some type of apology, more people would know what he said. Many would say, "thats what I would say too". Sure, its a stupid image problem that NO is trying to get rid of. But ESPN can't do it.Quote:
Originally posted by Harvey Hornet
The point here is that David Aldridge inadvertantly broadcasted some derogative statements he did not want heard on the air. He did not want them heard, because they were nasty things to say. He knew they were ugly statements. Things he would not want to be held accountable for in public. Well.....he said them and meant them. While he wished they would not be broadcast, they were. Anyone with any intelligence, no matter which city you are from, knows the innacuracies of stereotyping. Aldirdge, of all people should know that. So, he is an ignorant fool. Big deal. I think ESPN, not him, but ESPN owes some sort of acknowledgement of his improper comments. An apology from him is useless. He meant it. ESPN on the other hand can say they do not condone his type of remarks and hold him accountable. That is my issue. Anyone with brains would not be hurt by his words. They are not entirely true. The parts that had some truth were said in an angry and hateful manner. They are the words of a bitter and ignorant "man". The good news for him is that the network does not seem to be interested in holding him accountable. What if Dan Patrick had said DC was a predominantly black city infested with crack users, dope using mayors and useless street thugs. He would be right, but he would be in deep sh!t. You know why too.:mad: :mad: :mad:
Rainwater - You are making light of a relatively serious lack of judgment by Aldridge that affects our city. I do not care what you think as it does not effect you at all! This is not some light-hearted "bashing" between college teams as you compare it to. It was very derogatory comments against a segment of the population that should be taken seriously and it is not being so. So, if you do not like us talking about it here, you are quite welcome to leave to your little "paradise" in Charlotte. There is always charlotte.com for you.:mad:
I don't want an apology. I just want to hear that it was the wrong thing for him to say. Their radio is syndicated here. The could do a 15 second ad segment for the locals only. I want ESPN to treat Aldridge as anyone else would be treated who said something so ignorant. It is all about who is saying what about who. Only certain whos get taken down. The other whos can say and do as they please. Double standards.:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by rainwater
I'm afraid an apology would only confirm people's beliefs about the city. The truth is very few people heard this. By issuing some type of apology, more people would know what he said. Many would say, "thats what I would say too". Sure, its a stupid image problem that NO is trying to get rid of. But ESPN can't do it.
Rainwater,
Do you really know what David Aldridge said about New Orleans? Pretending that a comments to the effect people in New Orleans only have three-cents and that the city is only good for booze and chasing women as opposed to basketball is just an "opinion of someone who does this for a living" is sophistry. These are insults at which we have every right to take offense. They are no less obnoxious to us than John Rocker's comments about New York were to New Yorkers. It is interesting there weren't a lot of people telling New Yorkers to "get a grip" and that people always bash cities so they should get used to it.
As far as taking things like this personally, I *do.* When people make nasty generalizations about New Orleans and the people here, they are talking about *me,* my family and my friends, all of whom live are and are, by definition, included in your comments. I am not willing to absolve anyone who tries to say, after the fact, "oh don't take it personally," it's just an opinion -- I don't really mean *you.*"
These statements also have the unfortunate quality of being completely false. The consequence -- Mr Aldridge's comment are either lies or ignorance. Considering his evaluation of this area is part of his job, I think both possibilities are pretty bad.
As far as taking things like this personally, I *do.* When people make nasty generalizations about New Orleans and the people here, they are talking about *me,* my family and my friends, all of whom live are and are, by definition, included in your comments. I am not willing to absolve anyone who tries to say, after the fact, "oh don't take it personally," it's just an opinion -- I don't really mean *you.*"
I think we all got your back on this one Westbank. You call N.O. names then that means you are talking to everybody here. Yes, we take it big time personally. Aldrige needs to apologize or I don't think he should ever show his face here. I really don't think ESPN can let this slide. Everybody heard about it.
I don't have a problem with anybody talking about it. But when you get mad because ESPN does not issue anapology, then I sort of have to laugh because you guys try to make this seem like its a national crisis.Quote:
Originally posted by HORNETSFAN
Rainwater - You are making light of a relatively serious lack of judgment by Aldridge that affects our city. I do not care what you think as it does not effect you at all! This is not some light-hearted "bashing" between college teams as you compare it to. It was very derogatory comments against a segment of the population that should be taken seriously and it is not being so. So, if you do not like us talking about it here, you are quite welcome to leave to your little "paradise" in Charlotte. There is always charlotte.com for you.:mad:
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Originally posted by Westbank Hornet
As far as taking things like this personally, I *do.* When people make nasty generalizations about New Orleans and the people here, they are talking about *me,* my family and my friends, all of whom live are and are, by definition, included in your comments. I am not willing to absolve anyone who tries to say, after the fact, "oh don't take it personally," it's just an opinion -- I don't really mean *you.*
Great post Westbank, and I agree.
Rainwater, I would like to appeal to your conscience. Though no New Orleanian is gonna die from Aldridge's comments, the fact of the matter is that it hurts. If you can imagine someone saying that what George Shinn has done in Charlotte shouldn't effect your community----just "get a grip"----would be careless at best. Some of those things have effected your community and that effect may definitely be warranted. When someone does or says something that hurts someone, the right thing to do is just admit that it was wrong.
We know people say and do wrong things all the time, it's just that we can't justify the wrong on the grounds that it's "reiterated a lot or he's just doing a job". I hope I assume correctly when I say you would never want the perception of what's going on in Charlotte as just George and Ray doing their job, because the effect is so much greater than that.
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When the owners said that Charlotte can kiss their grits, I didnt see a lot of people in Charlotte getting upset about it.Quote:
Originally posted by RENFO
Great post Westbank, and I agree.
Rainwater, I would like to appeal to your conscience. Though no New Orleanian is gonna die from Aldridge's comments, the fact of the matter is that it hurts. If you can imagine someone saying that what George Shinn has done in Charlotte shouldn't effect your community----just "get a grip"----would be careless at best. Some of those things have effected your community and that effect may definitely be warranted. When someone does or says something that hurts someone, the right thing to do is just admit that it was wrong.
We know people say and do wrong things all the time, it's just that we can't justify the wrong on the grounds that it's "reiterated a lot or he's just doing a job". I hope I assume correctly when I say you would never want the perception of what's going on in Charlotte as just George and Ray doing their job, because the effect is so much greater than that.
:)
Nobody is trying to justify Aldrigde's comments, but its not the most damaging thing thats ever been said about NO. If everybody was responsible for apoligizing everytime they said something bad about a city (that they mean), then all we would be doing is apologizing.
I'm just telling you that ESPN will not be issuing an apology. You have tried to make it worse than it was.
MarignyJohn,Quote:
Originally posted by MarignyJohn
Or that North Carolina is a racist and homophobic place due to the long sting of comments made by Senator Helms who North Carolina re-elects like clockwork.
A case could be made for this based on the "offical" record in the Senate, not some idiot reporters "opinion" based on his own bias.
Careful with the stereotyping .. Mr. Aldridge is not a resident of NC (he made the comments) .. also .. where is David Duke from and what state elected him to public office??
:rolleyes:
Guys, let's turn this thread around so it isn't relegated to the smack board, please.
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Originally posted by rainwater
If everybody was responsible for apoligizing everytime they said something bad about a city (that they mean), then all we would be doing is apologizing.
I'm glad you said that, because the reality is that we ARE responsible for every bad thing we do(the Bible's clear on that)and we should be always apologizing for WHATEVER wrong we do(called taking responsibility).
Sorry about that Spongey .. you are right, my comments should have been placed on the smack board where they belong .. just replied to a the post .... my bad.Quote:
Originally posted by spongey
Guys, let's turn this thread around so it isn't relegated to the smack board, please.
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Originally posted by rainwater
Our city has been bashed as much as NO in this. But I don't see a lot of protest coming out of CLT when somebody writes and article or makes a quote.
Oh please, don't make me :throwup:
That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet.
I can not think of many people in the media who has anything good to say about the move.