Yeah, I honestly didn't make the David Duke connection, and I feel like it was long enough ago that it wouldn't be a big deal. Not saying that means I'm all in on Dukes, but I don't think that's a detractor from it.
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Yeah, I honestly didn't make the David Duke connection, and I feel like it was long enough ago that it wouldn't be a big deal. Not saying that means I'm all in on Dukes, but I don't think that's a detractor from it.
I'm kind of miffed at you Dukes ppl for essentially nixing dub creating Knights.
Knights? KNIGHTS? You mean the name that thousands of high schools and institutions ALREADY use? Knights? I think Knights is the single most boring name that the New Orleans Hornets could choose for their re-branding. New Orleans, the city itself, is an American Original, and the Franchise deserves an original name. If I want to watch the Knights, I'll go see my High School play it's local rival. GEAUX KREWE!!!
Krewe is leagues above any other name...I like Brass but I saw a New Orleans Brass hockey game when I was little and it just seems like it's piggybacking off the old name Jazz. WE NEED A FRESH START!!! Voodoo already exists (AFL Team) although I like the name, again not original. And if we choose Dukes, Coach K better come in the deal.
Actually...sorry for 3 in a row by the way but...what if it wasn't New Orleans? What if the name was Crescent City Krewe or atleast some alternates like the Rip City in Portland. Crescent City Krewe sounds like music to my ears
I agree with you on this. I hear everybody's argument for their own name and that's why I take the time to do these concepts so that there 'what if' get's brought to life. I was in love with the Krewe from the get go as it was my inspiration to do my first concept. I think just about every possible name that can be thought of, has been posted between these two threads. Like it or not, if it were up to my choosing, the I'd have to roll with the Krewe! It's just too New Orleans of a name and unique to the league to pass up. Your idea for the 'Crescent City' is a good one as I took to concepting an alternate uniform using it as the Trailblazers do their 'Rip City'.Quote:
Knights? KNIGHTS? You mean the name that thousands of high schools and institutions ALREADY use? Knights? I think Knights is the single most boring name that the New Orleans Hornets could choose for their re-branding. New Orleans, the city itself, is an American Original, and the Franchise deserves an original name. If I want to watch the Knights, I'll go see my High School play it's local rival. GEAUX KREWE!!!
Krewe is leagues above any other name...I like Brass but I saw a New Orleans Brass hockey game when I was little and it just seems like it's piggybacking of the old name Jazz. WE NEED A FRESH START!!! Voodoo already exists although I like the name, again not original. And if we choose Dukes, Coach K better come in the deal.
Actually...sorry for 3 in a row by the way but...what if it wasn't New Orleans? What if the name was Crescent City Krewe or atleast some alternates like the Rip City in Portland. Crescent City Krewe sounds like music to my ears.
Slow your roll bud :hihi:
And the Crecent City spin in Krewe is a big bonus to some ppl here, its been discussed a lot in this thread and others.
For the record, I like Krewe and would totally embrace it but feel it might be a bit too different for ppl outside of the Gulf South to understand and/or embrace.
I just read through the forum and saw Crescent City Krewe a few pages ago. So props to him. Maybe if we were the Krewe, we could have our home/aways and re-do the Mardi Gras uni to be the Crescent City alternate or keep the Mardi Gras for Mardi Gras season and use our gold alternate now to base the Crescent City's off of. I would buy a Crescent City Krewe jersey before you could say "beignet"
How did we forget Beignets!!!
;)
:P
If we did Krewe, we don't NEED to keep the Mardi Gras jersey as a full time jersey. I'd like to see a full purple, green, or yellow jersey with accent colors (ones not used in main color jersey) to be used. We could always do the MG Jerseys during the MG season b/c I think they're outlandish enough to really fit in with Mardi Gras.
Or the RED BEANS :hihi:
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I feel the same way. I live in Baton Rouge, and I don't think Krewe would go over any better here than the Hornets have, and we're in the same state (so just think about internationally). But to be totally honest, even though I like Krewe, Voodoo, Knights, etc., I'm starting to think that if we can't get the name Jazz back, then we should just stick with Hornets. If you're looking for an easy-to-market, internationally-acceptable yet still local name, then quite frankly, Jazz is the only choice. Nothing we can possibly come up with is better than that name. Krewe, Dukes, Voodoo, ArcAngels, and the like are all good names (Brass isn't though), but are they good enough to completely overhaul a franchise that already has a decent fanbase? Is it really worth the cost? A more local name isn't going to instantly endear a football-oriented city (and state) to a a basketball squad that's still very much a newbie here. And it's important to remember that the current global marketability of the Saints only came about recently, as a result of their newfound winning ways and America wanting to believe in a comeback story after Katrina. The Hornets could have easily enjoyed that same type of success had they won that seventh game against San Antonio and not fallen apart after the current rebranding effort (new jerseys, Fleur-de-Bee, Mardi Gras uniforms, etc.).
Franchises that are in the midst of a rebuilding process sometimes make hasty decisions. (See: The Cavs quickly ditching their perfectly-fine previous uniforms in favor of their rather dull current ones just because LeBron left). I'm as caught up in all the rebranding fun as everyone else on this board (I love this kind of stuff, always have), but if I were Benson, I'd take a good hard look at doing all I can to make the Hornets as much of a winner as I can, rather than hastily changing the name for a rebranding project that may or may not work. Let's not pull out the can of Raid on the Fleur-de-Bee just yet.
'da Pralines and we can listen to everyone from out-of-state pronounce them as PRAY-leans.
New Orleans Pilots!!!
No post can be excellent when it suggests keeping the Hornets.
I agree that Krewe does not resonate well with ppl outside of NOLA and many New Orleanians that I have talked to don't like it either. I realize not everyone will be happy with the name chosen. I like New Orleans Pilots. It not only fits in Nola but also with the entire state considering the Mighty Mississippi runs straight through Louisiana. The name is unique and it sounds good. It isn't a generic high school name like knights and its't so over the top that it seems like we are trying too hard to be different. I realize not many other people like Pilots but give it some thought and I think you'll realize how well it fits the City, state, and gulf coast region.
I like Pilots better than some, its not horrible.
I'm terrified of some Jets-esque logo though :hihi: I know you mean river pilots but again, most ppl will assume airplane.
I enjoy the discussion of Krewe because I suppose the Hornets have a farther reach than New Orleans but there is the Columbus Crew soccer team. A crew is a Krewe is a crew...what's so confusing to outsiders? I like Pilots but my dad is a Pilot from New Orleans so I'm way biased there.
Man I swear you are as passionate about that name as Hornets78, was about the Arcangels! I'm going to have to move your request to the front of the pile!Quote:
I agree that Krewe does not resonate well with ppl outside of NOLA and many New Orleanians that I have talked to don't like it either. I realize not everyone will be happy with the name chosen. I like New Orleans Pilots. It not only fits in Nola but also with the entire state considering the Mighty Mississippi runs straight through Louisiana. The name is unique and it sounds good. It isn't a generic high school name like knights and its't so over the top that it seems like we are trying too hard to be different. I realize not many other people like Pilots but give it some thought and I think you'll realize how well it fits the City, state, and gulf coast region.
I hope Benson hired a good team of professionals to come up with good options. Hopefully something we haven't thought of that will make us say "Why the hell didn't we think of that?"
Bigdub is working on it not some amatuer. In the end it won't be confused with airplanes or the NY Jets lol.
Another very small reason I think it works is bc every time the Hornest/Saints have a nationally televised game the networks always show the Miss. River scene when coming back from commercial break and when they start the broadcast. New Orleans is synonymous for being a river and port city.
I don't think LeBron leaving is the only reason they Cavs changed their jerseys. I'm pretty sure the 24 month waiting list is not just for name changes, but for logos/uniforms/etc. It's to allow Adidas to adjust production so they don't end up with a ton of back stock of the "old" stuff that they can't sell.
Completely disagree with you re:Hornets. It's a tainted brand -- especially in New Orleans. It reeks of Shinn and Baron and Mashburn and Dan Dickau and Katrina and Shinn and Oklahoma City and those awful Valentine's Day jerseys and Shinn and Bower and wasted draft picks and being bought by the league and the entire CP3 saga.
Could the team be successful if they just kept the Hornets brand? Oh course.
But now is the time to make a clean break from the past decade. Next season we'll have a new owner, a new lease, two rookies from the lottery, and a potential superstar that the city hasn't even really seen play yet. I imagine the Hornets will rebrand this summer because the league knows that the timing will never be better.
Finally! I'm through with the home jersey for the Knights. Looks like I'll be pulling a late-nighter in order to finish this for ESPN.
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I really didn't change much on the top, it's nearly identical to the current Hornets jersey, sans the pinstripes. The only other differences are the collar and the fleur-de-lis outline on the sides. The shorts and side panels are a different story, though they are based on the current Hornets gear. I added vertical piping, as well "NOLA" going down the side plus a fleur-de lis symbol.
I don't know if these have been offered up already but here goes:
New Orleans ....
Pepper
Spice
River
Canes
Gators
Commanders
Love those Knights jerseys but DESPISE the name Knights
Okay, here's what I'm sending to ESPN. Wish me luck....
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Purple Haze, I'm with you. I was pretty disappointed at how the red turned out when I scanned it. It looks better on the paper. The use of the color red was supposed to be a tie-in to the NO flag, Baton Rouge, and some other things. I figured I had to go with a bright shade of red to avoid a LeBron-era Cleveland Cavs lookalike. Now that I'm finished though, I'll be happy to try out any color schemes y'all might suggest. :)
I like the Knights logo, but not sold on KNIGHTS. I'm too lazy to read back, but whats the significance of KNIGHTS to NOLA?
Agree...not a bad look but a bad name. What is a Neoknight? Still say the knight designs would fit with Dukes (which does have a tie in to the city). I like the connection without being some forced touristy attempt at a name. If Saints works for football ( and it now clearly does) then Dukes would easily work for basketball. Dukes is the best suggestion by far. Please no Krewe.
Honestly, other than the Mardi Gras connection (some Krewes use the title "Knights" instead of "Krewe"), there really isn't much that doesn't piggyback off of Dukes. Really, they're two sides of the same coin: One sounds cooler and has more marketing potential, the other is unmatched in terms of historical significance.
EDIT: Check out this little tidbit of info I found. Obscure, yes, but it makes the link between Knights and Saints stronger:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...f_Peter_Claver
EDIT 2: Would anybody like me to draw up a redesign of my Knights concept with new colors for the Dukes?
Sure, the more Dukes stuff the better ;)
What about the Zydeco.
WOW man that's really good! I'm not just saying this because I love the Knights name but that logo is fantastic.
You should really try your hand at electronic art. GIMP 2 is free to download. Obviously it's a big jump but after a while you might be great. I'm sure that scan doesn't do your work justice and that just makes me sad because it's pretty friggin awesome scanned.
What a cool logo. Mind sending me the whole file via PM? Just for personal use.
No problem, I'll get it to you this evening. :cool:
Ironically, I do use Gimp. I even used it to help make the jerseys and arrange the design sheet. It's all hand-drawn, but it's "digitally arranged", I suppose. I've used Gimp for a few years now, and though I've become pretty good at making sigs and wallpapers using stocks and renders, I'm still trying to get the hang of purely original graphic design. Thanks for the compliments, though, they really mean a lot. :)
Panic, I feel a sense of sarcasm in that post. ;)