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Latter Day Saints.
You're right, but check this out.........turns out that the first pro basketball team in New Orleans was named the Hurricanes!
http://defendneworleans.com/blog/hor...itive-history/
Doesn't change anything, still a highly questionable name, but I just found that little tidbit of info interesting.
I think you mean JOSEPH Smith. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith
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did I miss Dub's Dukes mock ups?
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I hear your objection, but I'm just wondering at what point do we stop being afraid? When did Hurricane join the ranks of Lord Voldemort by people saying "that which shall not be named"? You didn't see Carolina or Miami change there team name when they are as, and in most cases, even more succeptable to these storms than we are! We caught a bad break, but such is the life we choose by living in this city we call home.Quote:
One word: Katrina. There's no way we use a name that even remotely hints at a Katrina connection, nor should we. I would've liked the name pre-2005, though.
These storms will always be a part of us, like it or not, named or not. We cannot stop them or make them go away, and the defense that we put faith in our goverment to protect us, ultimately led to our demise. We celebrate our own misgivings in this city with a vigor unlike any in America. We laugh at ourselves but the underlying revelance to it all is that WE and only WE can do it!
We would not be mocking those that have died or suffered at the destruction of any hurricane to ever grace our shores. We would only be embracing a part of our livelyhood that is much a part of us as eating crawfish and celebrating mardi gras. Those mid-west teams that might be named the Twisers or Cyclones, East Asia teams named Typhoons or Tsunami, are they making fun of themselves? Or are they simply embracing a fact that because of their sheer virtue of continuing to live where they are, they too must embrace such entity's as a part of their life. Their own unique culture!
You make a great and compelling argument. My observation was merely based off of current protocol, not a definitive suggestion. I agree that such tactics are not necessarily needed but some can help, and yes teams such as ourselves can go a bit overboard with it all. There are times when I'm at a game and everything with a 'Bee' catchprase just makes me grimmace a bit!Quote:
I agree the brand has to be represented by a mascot etc (I think that's easy for any team name in Louisiana). However, attaching puns and silly nicknames to every single aspect of the brand is a mistake. It becomes hard to take the organization seriously. For instance the Lakers don't have a nickname for the staples center and silly chants when the team is on the floor. To my knowledge our organization has more chants, saying,nicknames, etc. than any other organization and it hasn't exactly worked to create huge interest in the team or organization as a whole. A name like Saints isn't exactly easy to connect with team dancers, sayings, etc. but the organization has made it work in large part bc the name connects with the city. In my opinion simply having a name that is a representative of the city/region makes it 10X easier to market and will make all of those silly extras completely unnecessary.
Also with companies potentially looking to buy naming rights to the arena we will no longer need a nickname like "The Hive" for our basketball venue. No matter what brand we choose the organization can ask the fans to be part of the "Krewe". And do you really think "guys Knight out" has a bigger impact than "Guys Night Out"? I realize that was just an example and I'm not trying to drill you or force you to see it my way but in my opinion those extra "marketing" tactics are overrated and truly not necessary.
I would rather keep to the basics and let our team do the talking. I shall put OKC into this category with a playoff caliber team that they have, envious only in that fashion and not the un-fashionable brand identity that they have chosen for themselves. I just can't see (or hope) that Benson doesn't "connect" to us as greatly as we want him to, and as he has stated already.
He could have changed the colors and identity of the Saints if he wanted to. He chose not to. He birthed the VooDoo franchise and it was one of the better identites of the AFL League up until it's folding. And I say that because I really can't stand their new look and figure for the life of me, why isn't the logo colored correctly in the endzone? Acquiring this franchise gives him yet another fresh start to make something 'New Orleans'. It has just been those of us going back and forth on this forum to figure out just what 'New Orleans' is New Orleans!
I think you and I are on the same page Dub. I agree with your Benson assessment. He's been here too long and has too much money invested to screw up on choosing a name. I think he realizes this one decision will have a big impact on the future.
And for the record we can call the Pilots dance squad the 1st mates,deckhands or dancehands(that's awful), or skippers, or simply just the Pilot girls.
Also, can we expect to see any of your latest masterpieces any time soon or are you keeping them for yourself?
New poster here. I'm a die hard Cavs fan, but I really like whats going down in the Big Easy. You guys will have a fast rebuild and have an opportunity to swing things around real fast.
As far as rebranding and name changing, I really like the Crescent City Krewe. There is a lot of New Orleans culture being represented in that name. I personally have never been a fan of teh Hornets name, growing up in the 90's I have always related it with Charlotte.
Good luck in you rebuild, and may the ping pong balls bounce in your favor....unless it hurts the Cavs lol. :D
New Orleans Templars
They were killed on friday the 13th just like our league ownership.
Thanks, Cavs dude.
Here is what I came up for the Dukes. Originally I had a helmeted man inside of the shield surrounded by the fdl's, but I didn't like it on second thought. I rearranged the fdl's and added the white 3-bar above so that it resembles the shield of the Duke of Orleans.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...cept-Dukes.png
That is pretty hot!
When Benson agrees, let him know it was my idea for the name. ;)
Heck I'm ready to order some t-shirts with that logo.
Great job bigdub!
Still like the Arcangels name and logo better! :D
Stellar job, bigdub. I'm not a fan of the name at all, but that logo certainly makes me think on it a bit more.
Funny, I had a feeling this was coming! :pQuote:
Still like the Arcangels name and logo better!
That copyright watermark new or am I just more aware?
That's the new shield of New Orleans's NBA franchise. Great job!
More aware!Quote:
That copyright watermark new or am I just more aware?
Awwuhh...do I have to? I tell you what....the home one's will be white and the away set dark royal! Does that help?Quote:
Can't wait to see the mock up uniforms.
Keep hope alive, lol!Quote:
The dream will never die!
It just makes us seem blah. Dub has done amazing work and I know he didnt have much to go on here but it reminds me of a beer label...like newcastle or something
Will they have the 3 Fleur de lis along the bottom of the jerseys?
http://www.supershopsale.com/images/...CCM%20blue.jpg
That is all kinds of sexy.
Probably not. I really don't like to look at or think about other teams designs because I don't want to encroach upon their concept so that if favors my own. I'll research some pics or reading for inspiration but not another teams designs.Quote:
Will they have the 3 Fleur de lis along the bottom of the jerseys?
Basically the same thing just re-colored. The only differences were the swords going from bottom to the top with a banner wrapped at each tip and 'NEW ORLEANS' inside of it. The shield was more rectangular with an edge profile and 'KNIGHTS' scrolled across the front of it. The colors were black and gold.Quote:
What happened to the Knights designs?
Gotcha.
I have a thing for the FDL's, the more the merrier.
For those on the Dukes bandwagon, I think we have the right name. Hopefully Tommy's peeps are checking it out.
I never finished it. It's still rough. When I did the Dukes, I just copied the swords and crown into that design and went with it. Maybe I'll come up with something a bit different for the Knights.Quote:
Oh nice, could i get a look at it on here or by PM??
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Hopefully I'll have the Knights jersey designs up tomorrow. I also made some more changes to the logos, the Crescent/Fleur-de-lis symbol is now the secondary intstead of the primary. Question: On the Away jersey, should I go with Red, Gold, or Black?
WOOOOOOOHOOOOO! Are we advertising? because there's also this place that no one goes to. http://www.reddit.com/r/HORNETS
After seeing that Dukes logo....looks great and wouldn't mind the team named. At first was skeptical, but seeing it designed, its great. Dub, have any of the jerseys designed yet?
Dukes logo is certainly nice looking but I just don't think it's all that sports franchise-y. Hate to be a dick on the subject but that's just my opinion ;)
Every NBA fan and non fan outside of New Orleans is going to associate "the dukes" with David Duke. Fact.
Personally, I dont like Krewe or VooDoo. I would like to see the pirates or the Cajuns as our mascot. Personally, I think they fit the best with our culture.
That may be right, they may also tie us in with this group:
http://newfunny.com/wp-content/uploa...zard_large.jpg
or
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mnw0mTMG03...gPlaces_BD.jpg
I'm guessing the over 50 crowd may remember David Duke, but the younger crowd doesn't know enough history or politics to pay attention. Plus remember, its one guy, who lost. Move on.
Love those Duke ideas. Man Dub just takes names that I don't like, and maks me love them... Breakers, Arcangels, now Dukes! Names that I never thought I would be okay with, I now find myself fine with as long as we go with something similar to Dubs designs!