Originally Posted by
da ThRONe
Sorry for not answering any of the direct question yesterday was a busy day. Flew in to NOLA and dealt with packing, a procrastinating wife and a demanding daughter.
Just to give a general overview. I think superstardom will always be subjective though I applaud MM effort to come up with a formula for something more tangible. The problem is the other players matter. Take Chris Bosh I would think based on MM scale with the Raptors he's a superstar and one year later because he teams with James and Wade I doubt on the scale he would qualify. Same with for Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. I see a similar fall in production for Love and/or Irving.
However if I was tweaking MM method I think their needs to be some level of consistency when calling a guy a superstar. Somebody like Goran Dragic or Al Jefferson can put together a huge year, but I wouldn't just elevate them to superstar status overnight. Also I'd put less stock in awards. They are popularity contest as much as they are based on the year. You can have a player be just as good as another player for a month or two and not get player of the month that shouldn't negate what a player does just because it falls short of an award and that goes double time for All-Star appearances. Also I wouldn't put to much stock into stats. As I've stated above with players like Bosh and Garnett all went from putting up crazy numbers to taking smaller roles for the sake of winning. Lets just look at the PER for Rudy Gay the last two years when he was traded in the middle of the season in back to back years.
Gay PER for MEM in was 14.1 in 42 games was traded and his PER jumped to 17.6 in 33 games with the Raptors. The following year Gay with the Raptors for 18 games PER was 14.7 and then jumped to 19.6 in 55 games with the Kings. Just one player and a sample size, but I think it makes a solid point. In basketball unlike most sports there's going to be at least X amount of chance for shots, rebounds, steals, blocks, etc. Generally being on a team with limited players means more chances to collect stats because in basketball somebody has to do it. The superstars does this and wins. However the role on a team does impact how effective and efficient a player is. So I like to focus on skillset. Bosh and Garnett didn't lose his 20-10 skills in one offseason. Ray Allen didn't lose his 25ppg ability in one offseason. Rudy Gay didn't become more efficient overnight.