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Been admiring your work from afar- hope you don't mind a little feedback?
I like the old-school feel of the jerseys. Class is definitely the way to go, something that still see being worn 100 years from now, without being redesigned every second year.
The Blue Knights jersey creates a decent first impression. Slight colour query- not completely convinced that gold and white can go together. Nice feel overall though. Not too dissimilar to the current NO jersey (which I'm on record as being a fan of- perhaps infamously already.. one week a member and embarrassed myself already? A new record.. and yes, I like creole blue as much as teal, more possibly. Certainly meshes well with the gold in any case).
The Red Knights jersey looks like an authentic NBA jersey- which is good.. however, honestly my first reaction was 'Raptors'! Again, not a slight (the present Raptors journey is an improvement over previous lamentable efforts), it's just that... it's going to be REALLY really hard to make an original-looking jersey using red (particularly with black). Chicago, LAC, Houston, Atlanta, Washington, Philly, Cleveland-in-wine and Toronto (plus Portland and Miami occasionally, and formerly (now) the Nets).. the league is just overloaded when it comes to red.
Have you played around with any tri-colour arrangements similar to the new Washington jerseys?
Oh, and I really like your avatar btw- understated, nice :)
Scrolling through these many names..
Arcangels and Blues - the standouts, definitely.
Arcangels has cache, definite dark brooding symbolic potential. I'm seeing something like an English football club coat-of-arms, possibly even a Latin motto..
Blues is relevant, lends itself to club colour/s
Some kind of combo (Blue Knights, Blue Angels, etc).. palatable..
General question- is support converging on a select few suggestions, or are loyalties proving somewhat divided?
I guess the question now is...is Benson and crew working on this now in preparation for when he takes over the team? Will we know in advance what the rebrand will be or will they wait until the season is almost over?
I just hope it's not Angels, Spirit, or Voodoo.
Hi 42. You don't care about facts? One of them I see. You must be one of those pointy headed liberals that care about feelings. Nice avatar. by the way. Ozzy is one heck of a role model. That help explains your comments.
Well first of all, Marriam Webster isn't Biblical. They said that Christians are God's chosen people. That's not correct. Jews are God's chosen people. But I'm getting too theological for you so I'm not going to waste any effort with you.
Wow...
Technically 42's Avatar also includes Kermit the Frog. I'll be damned if I'm going to let anyone potentially badmouth Kermit as a role model...
Seriously though, if I were you I'd leave 42 alone. You gotta pick your fights, and I fear you may be outmatched.
And theology should never, ever come up on a basketball forum.. seriously. There's a time and a place dude.
Take it to PM, Christian. No on cares enough too see you get mentally beat down all over the place in the name change thread. :hihi:
I feel where you're coming from. I really didn't care for the jersey design at first, I was just trying to do something different. Since people liked it and asked for an alternate color, that's why I switched the colors to red, black and gold. I do however have concepts that don't hinder on blue's and red's like so many other NBA teams.
please no.. i want to see 42 bring the wrathhttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...ic/popcorn.gif
How about the New Orleans 666.
"Do unto others" -- English, from English, from Greek, from Hebrew, Matthew 7:12
re: pointy headed "'You shall not cut the hair on the sides of your heads, neither shall you clip off the edge of your beard" -- Leviticus 19:27 and I don't. Do you? Ol' (testament) school!
re: liberal, feelings. I'm not sure what even means, but am sure you don't.
As far as theology goes, I've got quite the education in that arena and can dance with you. Wanna talk the 4 literary traditions in the Bible? Apocrypha? Varying accounts of creation? The talking donkey? Numerology? Ezekial bread? Eytmological equivalence of the names for Jesus and Joshua? Translation lines? Paul's travels? The 40 days(es)?
As mentioned above, that's a discussion for elsewhere, but I want you to know that I welcome the chance to educate you and to heal you.
re: avatar, those are not exactly supposed to be role models . . . and at least mine isn't a 4yo 2-dimensional commandment breaking bee.
As far as the TOPIC goes, I don't think polarizing THE WORLD with a judeo-christian dripping name is what the NBA wants to do with its global market and one of its most cosmopolitain, and certainly its most European, cities.
The brand will try to be neutral to most people, have a little pep, and, hopefully, engage the locals.
Look for my daily suggestions that this board seems dead set on making has difficult as possible for me.
What did I ever do to them to deserve this? Oh, yeah, I was a grumpy . . . patootie . . . reaping, sewing . . .
It seems many on this site see you as some kind of 'god'. That's fine- you're a popular guy and frankly since you are such the genius, being popular means you are in the wrong group. Since youre some kind of genius, you obviously have no problem understanding what I'm talking about. I'll let you get back to leading your disciples now.
If you think I'm popular, you are sadly mistaken. If you think people agree with me on things or wait for my opinion, you are sadly mistaken. I rarely weigh in on many `hot topic' on this site.
I've never been a `cool kid.' I don't, however, just walk in to someone's house and telling them what for. I wait a little bit, engage, scrap if necessary, the settle up and move on.
I'm fine doing that with you at this point.
Have a good one.
So tonight's names:
New Orleans MacBooks
New Orleans Corbetts
New Orleans Party
New Orleans Freak City
New Orleans 1693 (whatever year we were founded)
New Orleans 2012
New Orleans BC (Basketball Club)
New Orleans Munch
New Orleans UnilateralConversion
New Orleans Nickels
New Orleans Double Nickels
New Orleans Sweet Louie's
New Orleans Hippity Hop (Hot Rod Hundley call)
New Orleans Crantakers
New Orleans BOOM!
New Orleans Caliente
New Orleans Magnolia
New Orleans SwampMen
New Orleans Plume
come on guys we need something authentic NEW ORLEANS DAIQUIRIS its worth a shot if bigdub does the unis
That's fine; I'll take you for your word. My opinion is no better than yours and your opinion is no better than mine. If people are suggesting we re-brand the Hornets the Voodoo, or something satanic, we should all realize that's not going to happen. I am also going to voice my concerns over those types of names because any man of faith has that responsibility.
If a great man like Tim Tebow is one of the most divisve personalities around, certainly I am not surprised that here on a Hornets fan board that some feel the need to attack me for presenting Christian viewpoint. I've learned to expect it and again I've seen it once again right here. No hard feelings.
wonder if christians go to nj DEVILS games
First Mr. Benson would not name his team the Voodoo. But if you want to live in the fantasy world and pretend that he would rebrand his huge investment as "Voodoo", no I would not riot. I'm not a violent person. But I would not go to the games and would not support the team. I may be one of those Bible-beating Jesus freaks and there are not many of us, but Mr. Benson would not re-brand his team as something pagan like Voodoo because he's a smart business man.
Voodoo is more likely than many names that are being bandied about. You should realize the facts that connect
That brand
The team owner
This team being rebranded by that team owner
Assigned the probability you want to the event, and state your concerns in a coherent manner that will resonate with people who evaluate brands for what they are, and you will be respected instantly.
You should know that the Voodoo were among the most well attended AFL teams ever. So much so they AFL gave us 2 Arena Bowls and the current Voodoo (drawing not nearly as much but that is true for the new AFL as a whole) has placed yet another Arena Bowl here.
So understand that your concern is not shared by people who attended AFL Voodoo games in numbers approaching Hornets numbers, and that was for a team in a far less popular league and with few seats (bigger playing surface allows fewer stands to be deployed at the ends).
"To get their fix, they're buying VooDoo season tickets in record numbers. According to Owner/Executive Rita Benson LeBlanc, it's not just a team record, rather they have sold more season tickets -- "over 12,000," according to Benson LeBlanc -- than any other team in the 21-year history of the league. That includes clubs that regularly sell out their arenas on a game-by-game basis, such as Jon Bon Jovi's Philadelphia Soul and John Elway's Colorado Crush."
And here is your link:
http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories...720.xml&coll=1
Quotes from the family in it. You can pick on the fact that it's fewer games, etc. Sure. The point is, people went. Lots of them. More than for other teams.
Tebow is not divisive. Everyone knows he's a knob. We stand united.
You have not been attacked for presenting a Christian viewpoint. You have been educated with actual facts and accounts of reality. Bring your own and they will not be attacked. "That won't happen, it's a bad bad thing, I said so" will. By me. Often. Until I'm banned.
Yeah definitely the second thing.
The dude very obviously isn't too bright, nor was he debating. The first point you made about the literal and assumed definition of saint was well-deserved and on point in my opinion. The second was little else but academic penis-swinging, and a show of "authority".
Basically I was holding you to a higher standard of conduct since he is so bat**** crazy; instead, you put the image in my head of a professor laughing at the insane cat-lady on the street and comparing the futility of her life to Don Quixote (the Spanish version of course).
It's christianity of the heart not of the mouth. Your faith need only be between you and God. Unless you are in service or are a priest in which case you should share with only those willing to listen. Just sayin. That's a small reason why I dislike Tebow, there are many christians just as devoted as Tebow, who do not feel the need to publicly use their faith.
you lost me after isn't too bright:rasta:
Sir, if you dont like Tim Tebow you have serious problems. I'll leave it at that.
Second, I can guarantee you that Mr. Benson will not rebrand the basketball team voodoo. I have no doubts about that.
Lastly, I am all about facts. The fact of the matter is people change as they mature and people meet someone that changes everything. I don't know about Mr. Benson's spiritual side before he met Rita, but I can tell you now that no serious man of faith will ever be associated with something like voodoo. There is nothing I have said that hasn't been factual.
Let me ask you this. What scripture are you currently studying? I'm studying Luke at the moment and am near the end of the book. Each time I read scripture, the more I take away from it.
Noted, and well-done.
You are likely right that I should ease up even more on the guy (and I did, I think, after), but he did get a little personal in opening the debate. But, yes, I should walk softly since I'm carrying this big stick in this particular tete-a-tete.
Appreciate the deserved criticism.
Dude does need to read some of the stuff being posted here for his benefit (and for those who can't decide who is less wrong), like the history of the brand and the attendance data. To spew stuff, essentially create work for someone else, then just deny it . . . it's rude.
June 12: Louisiana Boucherie
June 11: New Orleans Jacksons (Jax)
June 10: New Orleans Cathedrals
June 9: New Orleans Bon Temps
June 8: New Orleans Resilience
June 7: New Orleans Defenders
June 6: New Orleans Sportsmen
June 5: New Orleans Governors
June 4: New Orleans Trumpters
June 3: New Orleans Maskers
June 2: New Orleans Misfits
June 1: New Orleans Desire
Boucherie has potential. But I think it makes me hungry.
New Orleans Curveballs
I need sleep. Off to Big Nash tomorrow.
New Orleans Arc Angels.............epic..................oh yeah
Hey BigDub, do you have anything with the Bishops. I heard it on the radio the other day, and with Benson having the saints, and his and the city's strong religious beliefs, i think it would be nice.
New Orleand Bishops. With the colors Benson mentioned, Black/Gold/Red (but just a hint of red, nothing dominant).
With a logo of a Bishops hat like below, but with a fleur de lis instead of the cross. Maybe the hat sitting on a basketball rather than a head. Just a thought. I'm sure you can come up with some more clever ideas. I'd like to see them
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Big Dub, besides Pelicans, which other concepts will you be sharing with the Hornets at your presentation? Thanks in advance.
June 13: New Orleans Marquis
June 12: Louisiana Boucherie
June 11: New Orleans Jacksons (Jax)
June 10: New Orleans Cathedrals
June 9: New Orleans Bon Temps
June 8: New Orleans Resilience
June 7: New Orleans Defenders
June 6: New Orleans Sportsmen
June 5: New Orleans Governors
June 4: New Orleans Trumpters
June 3: New Orleans Maskers
June 2: New Orleans Misfits
June 1: New Orleans Desire