We have 0 draft picks this year and only Frank Jackson and Cheick Diallo as our prospects younger than Davis. I feel like the team needs a little more in terms of potential and upside on the roster, plus rookie scale contracts are cheap. There are a bunch of teams with a trove of picks this year:
Phoenix - Has their own 1st, plus Milwaukee's and Miami's 1sts. They also have their own 2nd and Toronto's 2nd.
-They have 12 players under contract for next season and that's before deciding what to do with Elfrid Payton. So 5 picks is too many. They'll be making deals.
Atlanta - Has their own 1st, plus Houston's and Minnesota's 1sts. They also have their 2nd round pick.
-They have fewer players under contract next year but may be looking to sell a pick.
Philadelphia - Has their own 1st and the Lakers' 1st. They also have FOUR second round picks.
-They have 10 players under contract (assuming they take the team options on Holmes and McConnell) so they'll be selling 2nds I'd assume.
Any deals you'd be aiming to make here? Would you simply try and buy a late 1st? Would you sign and trade Boogie? How would you get into this draft?
How would you get into this years draft?
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03-28-2018, 06:13 PMImposeHow would you get into this years draft?
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03-28-2018, 06:37 PMMythrol
We have a 2nd round pick this year.
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03-28-2018, 09:30 PMImposeIt was traded to Chicago in the Niko deal I thought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
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03-28-2018, 09:42 PMPelsFan2313We originally traded it away to get out of Q-Pon's contract, but got it back in the Mirotic transaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impose
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03-28-2018, 09:48 PMImposeGotcha, still, would be nice to get a pick <40thQuote:
Originally Posted by PelsFan2313
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03-30-2018, 01:10 PMBP225
You could probably add a future 2nd to our 2nd and get into the 30s. Maybe you could get higher if you have a team with a late 1st and a tax situation that doesn't want guaranteed salary going to a player that won't play, but most likely you can just get higher in the 2nd.
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03-30-2018, 09:20 PMAusPelAnd NBADraft.net still haven't fixed it on their draft boardQuote:
Originally Posted by PelsFan2313
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03-31-2018, 10:30 AMtdcreator
I Would think philly, Phoenix, and Atlanta all have 3 first round picks and multiple second rounders so i hope that’s something that can happen. I also think mirotic and Moore could net a late first rounder.
I’d love for Troy Brown and/or one or 2 of the Martin twins. They all 6’7 and can play pg to sf. I’d like to have a taller SG and SF if possible. Also like Jackson from Maryland. I don’t see any drafts with him in it and saw he declared. -
03-31-2018, 11:59 AMUNO Gracias
Philly is at the tail end of "THE PROCESS" so I don't see them shipping off those picks. It wouldn't make sense to trade one of those picks unless a very good player was coming back. Think about it, those picks will provide them with players with potential at a very cheap price, while they also have a lot of cap space to work with. They can own the free agent market if they don't tie their cap up with mid tier players. It would be a gross negligence on their part to load up on mid tier players when they still need to lock up their young core long term.
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04-12-2018, 05:33 PMImpose
I like this guy, currently mocked for mid second round selection, seems to have legit size, a face-up midrange game, can hit the open 3.
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04-12-2018, 10:26 PMtdcreator
I like him and the Martin brothers. I’ve seen some mocks they aren’t even in and a few they go end of first top of second. These guys would give us more length at the SG and sf.
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04-12-2018, 11:06 PMmsusousaphone
I don't think it's the kiss of death for us not to add more picks. It's not like we have this incredibly aging roster that has to be replenished. In the NFL, it matter way more because the rosters are huge. Not as much NBA. Honestly, we could trade away our 2nd and I still think our roster is OK.
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04-13-2018, 02:15 AMAusPelYou think if there's a good deal to be had, Dell will be all over it like he has been the past 2 draft days in the second roundQuote:
Originally Posted by BP225
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04-13-2018, 08:01 AMluckyman
Having a young Frank Jackson and Diallo is plenty enough. Dell's "young vet" push works because it keeps the roster young but not too young to compete.
The NBA draft just doesn't mean as much as the drafts of the NFL or MLB. -
04-13-2018, 08:36 AMMythrol
Keep in mind 1st round picks have guaranteed contracts until end round picks.
If we actually draft someone this year, expect it to be the same thing as the last 2 years. We trade up for an early 2nd to get a guy we had a 1st round grade on. -
04-13-2018, 08:38 AMPelicanidae
I'm not too insane about drafts. Obviously if we do well, and pick up a good rookie that's great but we still have Frank who hasn't played yet, and Diallo's only 21. If we drafted 21 year old Cheick Diallo this season, we'd be hype about it knowing that (with this skill set he's had this year) he could probably average a double double.
Plus, think about this;
Cheick, Frank, AD, Mirotic, Clark, Solo, Jrue, and Cousins are all 27 or under. That's a young team. -
04-13-2018, 08:52 AMAusPelSeems to be working so far, so we should keep doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
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04-13-2018, 09:25 AMHoustonPelicans
Mirotic can be traded to the Suns to move up to 15th or 16th. Aaron Holiday anyone?
It actually make sense for Mirotic to be moved. He's too talented to share minutes with AD, Boogie and Cheick, plus Hill, Miller. His contract is expiring next season, along with Diallo and we will probably pay Diallo (restricted) over Mirotic. Love Niko but he don't really fit after this year, mainly due to playing time and how much he will be paid next summer. -
04-13-2018, 09:32 AMPelicanidaeIf you move anyone, Cheick makes more sense than Mirotic. Mirotic's shooting provides a general need, and he's a legit power forward which means he's essentially that third big that we needed and hadn't been able to securely lock up until he arrived. Cheick, as much as he's got energy and has improved a ton, has no three point shot (he'll probably develop one but will it ever be as good as Mirotic? Probably not) and he's always been more of a tweener; a bit too short to be that reliable third big you could put out there to soak up centre minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans
I've never understood the "too talented to share minutes" idea. You have a guy who fills a role you need, who appears to be happy here and is well liked by the team, who has showed up when you've needed him, and who's locked up for another year, and fills that role exceptionally well, and you're open to move him because he's... Too good?
I don't think his next contract will be huge by the way, if Lou Wil got $7m a year then Mirotic probably won't demand much more, if more at all. -
04-13-2018, 09:33 AMFrench Pelican
I disagree with you i think niko will be valuable next year as he can play alongside AD AND Boogie and it would allow us to reduce their mpg which could in the long run be good for us as they wouldn’t have to carry us for 35-38mpg and then they could have fresher legs in the playoffs
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04-13-2018, 09:38 AMSilver NailWhy would Dell, or any GM trade a proven player for a draft pick? NEVER HAPPEN. Not even if pick was top 10Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans
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04-13-2018, 11:09 AMEman5805
We gotta get more players who can get to the foul line. Create their own offense.
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04-13-2018, 11:35 AMluckymanThis makes no sense. Any good player fits. Plus Niko is good but he's not so good to demand so many minutes it ruins a rotation with AD and Cousins.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans
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04-13-2018, 12:09 PM6warddude
With the success we had this season, I think we go the trade route and build to improve....Niko fit perfect with our big rotation and I guess it will come down to the dollars and his like to the team......IMO diallo is the odd man out now..we can package him and hill to improve the 1-3 positions......if Jackson can provide some scoring then that's a plus.......I don't know who he is but we have to get a good player at the 1-3 positions to go with jrue to get over the hump....
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04-13-2018, 12:30 PMthisisowenMiller and Diallo are the only two guys I could see going anywhere (besides Ajinca)... but even that I don't like the idea of...Quote:
Originally Posted by 6warddude
KEEP THE SQUAD IN TACT... let's see what happens next year...